| 8401 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Dec 24, 2002 2:40pm
Subject: Re: Mac desktop progress?
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, visualvibrations <maclover88@m...> wrote:
> Just checking in again to see how the mac desktop is coming?
> In the meantime, Is there an easy way to open the .pdb files in
> my Backups folder in Mac OS 9 or X?
Getting XCadeou the door, and dealing with Chrsitmas, delayed
things a bit. (As well as me being sick as a dog for 3 weeks and having
family in hospital.. this'll go down as one of the craziest years ever! :)
Now that XCade 1.4 is out, I expect only a few minor updates to it
over the next few weeks. The main focus for the next few weeks will be
stablizing the Shadow 2.6.9 theming stuff and getting Mac OSX desktop to
beta quality. So I expect lots of OSX action in the testing group soon,
and I really want to get that sucker out the door.. so lots will happen
over the next few weeks. Just Christmas eats up all your time.. as it it
should :)
Happy holidays!
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 8402 |
From: visualvibrations maclover88@m... <maclover88@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:33pm
Subject: Re: Mac desktop progress?
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Thanks Jeff for your quick response and look ing forward to the
Mac OSX beta.
Hope you are feeling better.
Merry Christmas
Jim
> Just checking in again to see how the mac desktop is
coming?
> > In the meantime, Is there an easy way to open the .pdb files
in
> > my Backups folder in Mac OS 9 or X?
>
> Getting XCadeou the door, and dealing with Chrsitmas,
delayed
> things a bit. (As well as me being sick as a dog for 3 weeks
and having
> family in hospital.. this'll go down as one of the craziest years
ever! :)
>
> Now that XCade 1.4 is out, I expect only a few minor updates
to it
> over the next few weeks. The main focus for the next few weeks
will be
> stablizing the Shadow 2.6.9 theming stuff and getting Mac OSX
desktop to
> beta quality. So I expect lots of OSX action in the testing group
soon,
> and I really want to get that sucker out the door.. so lots will
happen
> over the next few weeks. Just Christmas eats up all your time..
as it it
> should :)
>
> Happy holidays!
>
> jeff
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| 8403 |
From: Cindy Greene <cindyg@c...>
Date: Wed Dec 25, 2002 4:53am
Subject: Re: Mac Desktop Progress?
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I've been wanting to ask as well, but don't like to seem pushy.
But don't forget we're here, just because we're not noisy!!
Cindy
> Just checking in again to see how the mac desktop is coming?
> In the meantime, Is there an easy way to open the .pdb files in
> my Backups folder in Mac OS 9 or X?
> Happy Holidays
>
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| 8404 |
From: virtuallinesman virtuallinesman@b... <virtuallinesman@b...>
Date: Thu Dec 26, 2002 11:25pm
Subject: Re: Encrypt Text in Shadow
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I am interested in trialling ReadThis! as it suits the naming
convention I use in MemoPad (linked from Shadow). However, I
searched the archive and found the unanswered question below.
Has Gary or anyone else any experience? If not, I guess I'm the lab
rat on this one.
Happy Holidays
bignoseduglyguy
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Paulson" <gpaulson@o...>
wrote:
Has anyone else used ReadThis! with Shadow? I have just started
playing with it and seems to work. I wanted something that would
keep at least some of my stuff encrypted.
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| 8405 |
From: shlaf shlaf@y... <shlaf@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 27, 2002 0:42am
Subject: what is the most recent Shadow Desktop version?
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Hello fellow shadowers!
I have been out of sync :) with the Shadow news for couple of
months. Now I am trying to make up and first thing I'd like to know
is what is the most recent version of desktop? I have 1.2.5 - is
there a newer version? I couldn't find that info on codejedi web
site.
Thanks,
Yaakov.
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| 8406 |
From: Virtuallinesman <virtuallinesman@b...>
Date: Fri Dec 27, 2002 0:59am
Subject: RE: what is the most recent Shadow Desktop version?
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Hello again Yaakov
I downloaded mine just two weeks back and it is 1.2.5 also so I think it is
the current release
HTH
bignoseduglyguy
bignoseduglyguyATbignoseduglyguy.com
http://www.bignoseduglyguy.com
-----Original Message-----
From: shlaf <shlaf@y...> [mailto:shlaf@y...]
Sent: 27 December 2002 00:42
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shadow-discuss] what is the most recent Shadow Desktop version?
Hello fellow shadowers!
I have been out of sync :) with the Shadow news for couple of
months. Now I am trying to make up and first thing I'd like to know
is what is the most recent version of desktop? I have 1.2.5 - is
there a newer version? I couldn't find that info on codejedi web
site.
Thanks,
Yaakov.
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| 8407 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Sat Dec 28, 2002 2:17pm
Subject: Autolinking to ToDos not working with Desktop
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Jeff,
I realise that adding linking functionality to the desktop is on your
'sometime todo' list. I was hoping to get around this by using the
HHs 'always link new items to Todo'. Unfortunatly, when I add a new
item on the desktop, although the sync picks it up and its then shown
on the hand held, the HH doesnt 'recognise it' as a new item i.e.
there is no link to the Todo database - I have to manually set the link.
The reason I'm trying to do this is I do most of my reviews in front
of the PC and while there, I much prefer to use its large
screen/keyboard to enter data, rather than my slow data entry on the HH.
So I have my ToDo lists set up in Shadow but linked to the ToDos so my
desktop app can give me Alarms, reports etc.
With the current situation I have to regularly go through my HH lists
to make sure the ToDo links are all set - which is a bit of a pain.
The alternative is for me to enter my Todos in the desktop app with
the [[[]]] string and remember to manually import into the shadow
lists. Either way I dont like having to have a manual step in there -
too easy to miss it one day, and by sods law that would be an
important reminder missed!
Is there any chance that for lists with 'link new to todo' the HH
could check new items and set the link?
Alternatively will it be long before the DT supports linking?
TIA (& Happy New Year)
Victor.
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| 8408 |
From: neilbothams neil.bothams@b... <neil.bothams@b...>
Date: Sat Dec 28, 2002 2:44pm
Subject: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
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Hi
I have a vision of a tool that would greeatly aid in Getting Things
Done.
THE CONCEPT
I want to arrange "time buckets" within my appointments that i
dedicate to getting some tasks within a particular group of tasks
done. So the time bucket is simply an appointment with myself that
ensures I have time dedicated to work on a pre-defined group of tasks.
THE TOOL
I tap on an appointment within datebook and it takes me to a pre-
defined file with pre-defined filter(s) and view.
e.g Appointment=Arrive at work tasks
tap on this and I get taken to a set of tasks which have been
filtered etc so that only those pertinent to today; suitable for the
start of the day e.g. quick and relating to work appear.
HOW TO ACHIEVE?
I have experimented with using macroplay to achieve this. Macroplay
works by recording the stylus strokes and then replays them back.
The filter which the replay selects is highly variable depending on
all sorts o fthings like whether the "broken link" message is
displayed, whether a file is open or not. This is despite recording
the macro in such a way that you always exit a file first etc.
If it had worked then I would have used a "Link" tool to join the
phrase in the datebook that you wish to launch from to the macroplay
name that you wanted to run.
SO HELP ME!
I am not familiar with megawiki but wonder whether this can be used
to help?
Also perhaps a "button" could be added to SP that would allow you to
associate names with particular combinations of file/view/filters. I
could then have quick access to views that for example I would look
at during the beginning, middle, end of working day, end of day.
|
| 8409 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:42am
Subject: Re: Re: Mac Desktop Progress?
|
| |
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Cindy Greene wrote:
> I've been wanting to ask as well, but don't like to seem pushy.
>
> But don't forget we're here, just because we're not noisy!!
Virtual grafitti, theming, Mac OSX. I'm on top of it.. just
getting back into the swing :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8410 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:44am
Subject: Re: what is the most recent Shadow Desktop version?
|
| |
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, shlaf <shlaf@y...> wrote:
> Hello fellow shadowers!
>
> I have been out of sync :) with the Shadow news for couple of months.
> Now I am trying to make up and first thing I'd like to know is what is
> the most recent version of desktop? I have 1.2.5 - is there a newer
> version? I couldn't find that info on codejedi web site.
I think thats the one. Shadow 2.6 includes all the latest public
goodies except for the handheld side, which is 2.6.7 from the front page
of the website.
Jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8411 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:46am
Subject: Re: Autolinking to ToDos not working with Desktop
|
| |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, vjornes <vjornes@y...> wrote:
> Is there any chance that for lists with 'link new to todo' the HH
> could check new items and set the link? Alternatively will it be long
> before the DT supports linking?
This is a hard question; I've just not had too much time to think
about it.
Lets discuss it a little.. I'll make a new thread to make it
obious and get some ideas rolling.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8412 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:50am
Subject: Desktop and linking
|
| |
"Always link new items to ToDo" doesn't apply when items are made
on Shadow Desktop. This needs to be fixed.
But we also need to worry about Shadow Desktop linking.
Its a tough problem; I do not wish to do linking in Shadow Desktop
itself, since we would then be required to know how to add items into MS
Outlook, Palm Desktop, Act, and every other desktop tool.. with each being
different and proprietary.
So...
When Shadow Desktop creates an item, it could be flagged as coming
from the desktop in someway. Then when Shadow opens that file (when you
open it normally), Shadow could scan through, see the new item from the
desktop, clear the flag, and create the link if you've requested it
(always link to ToDo).
So.. what about ToDo and Datebook links? (lets not even talk about
Address and Memo links yet)
On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
into existance when the list is opened by you.
Is this acceptible?
I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it in the
handheld application keeps things together.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8413 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:51am
Subject: Re: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, neilbothams <neil.bothams@b...> wrote:
> SO HELP ME!
> I am not familiar with megawiki but wonder whether this can be used
> to help?
MegaWiki and LinkerHack could certainly do most of this.
I am tempted to add some "tricks" to Find to let you jump to lists
and views and filters...
Like a Find for:
"Shadow/Myfile/MyView/Myfilter" that sort of thing. That would be
interesting :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8414 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 5:47am
Subject: Re: Desktop and linking
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| |
sounds perfectly fine for me, and very glad it will be automatically linked for me after a desktop creation and then i can mess around with the details later. thanks Jeff!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Desktop and linking
On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
into existance when the list is opened by you.
Is this acceptible?
I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it in the
handheld application keeps things together.
jeff
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| 8415 |
From: Ken Latham clatham1@t... <clatham1@t...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 9:22am
Subject: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
Jeff,
How about "reserved" tags? Naaaahhh... when I think it through, the
way you implement tags (index to tag DB), it wouldn't be extensible.
It just seems to me that if the route you want to take is to delay all
actions until back on the HH, then you need a more general interface.
(and I'm pretty sure I like the "delay until HH" philosophy)
I was thinking tags but they couldn't be dynamic enough to specify ...
oh say ... the name of the address entry you want to link to.
So I'm a little at a loss to suggest where to store the "link
specifier" for the crossing to the HH. I'd say "note field", but I
know better than that... ;)
As far as the "auto link to ToDo" for all newly added DT records, that
doesn't require any visible marking on the DT.
It's only when you venture into the realm of manually marked records
does this become something I (personally) would really like to see
encompass all types of links.
Ken
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
wrote:
>
> "Always link new items to ToDo" doesn't apply when items are made
> on Shadow Desktop. This needs to be fixed.
>
> But we also need to worry about Shadow Desktop linking.
>
> Its a tough problem; I do not wish to do linking in Shadow Desktop
> itself, since we would then be required to know how to add items
into MS
> Outlook, Palm Desktop, Act, and every other desktop tool.. with each
being
> different and proprietary.
>
> So...
>
> When Shadow Desktop creates an item, it could be flagged as coming
> from the desktop in someway. Then when Shadow opens that file (when
you
> open it normally), Shadow could scan through, see the new item from
the
> desktop, clear the flag, and create the link if you've requested it
> (always link to ToDo).
>
> So.. what about ToDo and Datebook links? (lets not even talk about
> Address and Memo links yet)
>
> On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
> panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
>
> These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
> into existance when the list is opened by you.
>
> Is this acceptible?
>
> I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
> sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it
in the
> handheld application keeps things together.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8416 |
From: neilbothams neil.bothams@b... <neil.bothams@b...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 7:27pm
Subject: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
Hi
Can any users of megawiki help me out here? How do I do what Jeff is
suggesting. I have zero knowledge of megawiki. I had a quick look a
couple of months ago and was put off (unusual - I normally love
getting to grips with new software).
I am UK based and happy to call someone to work thru this. Thanks
for all your help as ever.
Bye for now
Neil
> MegaWiki and LinkerHack could certainly do most of this.
>
> I am tempted to add some "tricks" to Find to let you jump to
lists
> and views and filters...
>
> Like a Find for:
>
> "Shadow/Myfile/MyView/Myfilter" that sort of thing. That
would be
> interesting :)
>
> jeff
|
| 8417 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:55pm
Subject: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> sounds perfectly fine for me, and very glad it will be automatically
> linked for me after a desktop creation and then i can mess around with
> the details later. thanks Jeff!
Remember, it would only pop into existance after you open the
list. I coudl try and build a system to make this happen say the first
time you run Shadow, or I could make it process links during the
sync.. but that could be "odd" for other conduits...
jeff
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Mitchell
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:50 PM
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Desktop and linking
>
>
>
> On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
> panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
>
> These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
> into existance when the list is opened by you.
>
> Is this acceptible?
>
> I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
> sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it in the
> handheld application keeps things together.
>
> jeff
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
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>
>
>
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8418 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sun Dec 29, 2002 10:58pm
Subject: Re: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Ken Latham <clatham1@t...> wrote:
> So I'm a little at a loss to suggest where to store the "link
> specifier" for the crossing to the HH. I'd say "note field", but I
> know better than that... ;)
Oh, thats easy and my bidniz. ie: I'd just add a new flag to the
XML, and the conduit would know what to do. You needn't worry :)
> As far as the "auto link to ToDo" for all newly added DT records, that
> doesn't require any visible marking on the DT.
Nope; just in the XML. But I want everyone to consider the
implications of the delay in creation.. ie: That in the easiest solution
(for me ;) the new items wouldnt' show up in ToDo until they'd opened the
list on the handheld (could be days later, for instance).
I could build that, and then a bit later build a system to force
them to create faster perhaps.
> It's only when you venture into the realm of manually marked records
> does this become something I (personally) would really like to see
> encompass all types of links.
Yep.
jeff
>
> Ken
>
> --- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> wrote:
> >
> > "Always link new items to ToDo" doesn't apply when items are made
> > on Shadow Desktop. This needs to be fixed.
> >
> > But we also need to worry about Shadow Desktop linking.
> >
> > Its a tough problem; I do not wish to do linking in Shadow Desktop
> > itself, since we would then be required to know how to add items
> into MS
> > Outlook, Palm Desktop, Act, and every other desktop tool.. with each
> being
> > different and proprietary.
> >
> > So...
> >
> > When Shadow Desktop creates an item, it could be flagged as coming
> > from the desktop in someway. Then when Shadow opens that file (when
> you
> > open it normally), Shadow could scan through, see the new item from
> the
> > desktop, clear the flag, and create the link if you've requested it
> > (always link to ToDo).
> >
> > So.. what about ToDo and Datebook links? (lets not even talk about
> > Address and Memo links yet)
> >
> > On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
> > panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
> >
> > These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
> > into existance when the list is opened by you.
> >
> > Is this acceptible?
> >
> > I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
> > sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it
> in the
> > handheld application keeps things together.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
> micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
> is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8419 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 0:47am
Subject: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
easy to open the list once for it to occur, or first time you run Shadow would be even better!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Desktop and linking
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> sounds perfectly fine for me, and very glad it will be automatically
> linked for me after a desktop creation and then i can mess around with
> the details later. thanks Jeff!
Remember, it would only pop into existance after you open the
list. I coudl try and build a system to make this happen say the first
time you run Shadow, or I could make it process links during the
sync.. but that could be "odd" for other conduits...
jeff
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Mitchell
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 7:50 PM
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Desktop and linking
>
>
>
> On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
> panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
>
> These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would come
> into existance when the list is opened by you.
>
> Is this acceptible?
>
> I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the same
> sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it in the
> handheld application keeps things together.
>
> jeff
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
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>
>
>
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 8420 |
From: Wayne Gorton <thinkingclown@o...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 0:33am
Subject: RE: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
Jeff,
Could the conduit built the To-Do etc on sync back to the HH. If this is
not possible can you tag/have something run at the end of the Hotsync on
the HH? These ways it would be created immediately on sync and you
wouldn't have to worry about the proprietary desktop apps or enter
Shadow to create?
Share and Enjoy
Or go stick your head in a pig
The Thinking Man's Clown
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 14:58
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Re: Desktop and linking
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Ken Latham <clatham1@t...> wrote:
> So I'm a little at a loss to suggest where to store the "link
> specifier" for the crossing to the HH. I'd say "note field", but I
> know better than that... ;)
Oh, thats easy and my bidniz. ie: I'd just add a new flag to the
XML, and the conduit would know what to do. You needn't worry :)
> As far as the "auto link to ToDo" for all newly added DT records, that
> doesn't require any visible marking on the DT.
Nope; just in the XML. But I want everyone to consider the
implications of the delay in creation.. ie: That in the easiest solution
(for me ;) the new items wouldnt' show up in ToDo until they'd opened
the
list on the handheld (could be days later, for instance).
I could build that, and then a bit later build a system to force
them to create faster perhaps.
> It's only when you venture into the realm of manually marked records
> does this become something I (personally) would really like to see
> encompass all types of links.
Yep.
jeff
>
> Ken
>
> --- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> wrote:
> >
> > "Always link new items to ToDo" doesn't apply when items are
made
> > on Shadow Desktop. This needs to be fixed.
> >
> > But we also need to worry about Shadow Desktop linking.
> >
> > Its a tough problem; I do not wish to do linking in Shadow
Desktop
> > itself, since we would then be required to know how to add items
> into MS
> > Outlook, Palm Desktop, Act, and every other desktop tool.. with each
> being
> > different and proprietary.
> >
> > So...
> >
> > When Shadow Desktop creates an item, it could be flagged as
coming
> > from the desktop in someway. Then when Shadow opens that file (when
> you
> > open it normally), Shadow could scan through, see the new item from
> the
> > desktop, clear the flag, and create the link if you've requested it
> > (always link to ToDo).
> >
> > So.. what about ToDo and Datebook links? (lets not even talk
about
> > Address and Memo links yet)
> >
> > On the desktop I can create two checkboxes in the right hand
> > panel; "Request ToDo Link" and "Request Datebook link".
> >
> > These too would be easiest set up as above.. the link would
come
> > into existance when the list is opened by you.
> >
> > Is this acceptible?
> >
> > I would prefer to avoid link creation in the conduit for the
same
> > sorts of reasons as doing it in the desktop application. Doing it
> in the
> > handheld application keeps things together.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
> micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
> is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
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| 8421 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 2:45pm
Subject: RE: Re: Desktop and linking
|
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Wayne Gorton wrote:
> Could the conduit built the To-Do etc on sync back to the HH. If this
> is not possible can you tag/have something run at the end of the
> Hotsync on the HH? These ways it would be created immediately on sync
> and you wouldn't have to worry about the proprietary desktop apps or
> enter Shadow to create?
Thats one of the options I'd mentioned sort of; we can't schedule
something to run at the end of sync (without adding another conduit, or
moving our conduit to the end). I guess the risks are pretty low, so we
could cause Shadow's conduit to create its links live perhaps.. I just
dislike making sync sessions a little longer, and I worry about other
conduits that may be listening to the ToDo and Datebook databases.
I'll build the simple link-request stuff in first and then see how
it goes. Worrying up front might be unnecessary worry :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 8422 |
From: Jim Anderson <jima@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: RE: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
At 04:33 PM 12/30/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> Nope; just in the XML. But I want everyone to consider the
>implications of the delay in creation.. ie: That in the easiest solution
>(for me ;) the new items wouldnt' show up in ToDo until they'd opened
>the
>list on the handheld (could be days later, for instance).
What about adding a menu choice to open/close all lists? This action would
step through all of the lists, opening each one, performing any updates,
then automatically closing it. It would be an extra, manual step, but it
would allow the user to schedule when that (potentially) time-consuming
task happens.
|
| 8423 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 5:56pm
Subject: Re: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
From time and ease of use and ease of development for you Jeff, based on what I've read, seems the option that links with the next opening of Shadow would be most beneficial. Easy to open Shadow once to make it happen. If that becomes a problem for too many people then you could consider the conduit stuff, but I'd rather not take the chance right now with all the other work you are doing of messing up a conduit that could then take substantial time to get it right. Just my thoughts, noting I don't know all the required development details.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Re: Desktop and linking
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Wayne Gorton wrote:
> Could the conduit built the To-Do etc on sync back to the HH. If this
> is not possible can you tag/have something run at the end of the
> Hotsync on the HH? These ways it would be created immediately on sync
> and you wouldn't have to worry about the proprietary desktop apps or
> enter Shadow to create?
Thats one of the options I'd mentioned sort of; we can't schedule
something to run at the end of sync (without adding another conduit, or
moving our conduit to the end). I guess the risks are pretty low, so we
could cause Shadow's conduit to create its links live perhaps.. I just
dislike making sync sessions a little longer, and I worry about other
conduits that may be listening to the ToDo and Datebook databases.
I'll build the simple link-request stuff in first and then see how
it goes. Worrying up front might be unnecessary worry :)
jeff
--
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
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| 8424 |
From: gf_gollum gf_gollum@y... <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 5:57pm
Subject: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
|
| |
Well having been recommended Textplus in this forum, I found it to be an excellent product. The problem is that have waited unsuccessfully for 7 days for my registration code to arrive. E-mails to their addresses are all retuened as "no such host".. I guess I should conclude that they have ceased trading?
Anyway.. anyone wanting a New Year present from Smartcell should beware at the moment. Don't waste you money
Regards
Graham
|
| 8425 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
|
| |
would guess maybe the Christmas holidays have more to do with your problem! I prefer WordComplete any how, and am waiting for their update to OS5 units!
Enjoy,
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
Well having been recommended Textplus in this forum, I found it to be an excellent product. The problem is that have waited unsuccessfully for 7 days for my registration code to arrive. E-mails to their addresses are all retuened as "no such host".. I guess I should conclude that they have ceased trading?
Anyway.. anyone wanting a New Year present from Smartcell should beware at the moment. Don't waste you money
Regards
Graham
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| 8426 |
From: gf_gollum gf_gollum@y... <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 6:56pm
Subject: Re: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Giberson" <kevin@g...>
wrote:
> would guess maybe the Christmas holidays have more to do with your
problem!
Possibly - but I don't see why "host not found" errors should be
generated from an SMTP delivery. Sort of implies that their server
isn't their anymore.
Anyway... If it is just Xmas then any professional organisation should
have some "out of office" type notification on their systems at the
very least!
Anyway - I'm interested why you selected Wordcomplete over Textplus
(other than support :-). Textplus seems to be far more configurable
and faster than Wordcomplete. Also Wordcomplete failed to work (for
me) in some applications (like Shadow - where it dropped the first
character when entering texts into new entries). TextComplete works
just fine however.
|
| 8427 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 30, 2002 7:15pm
Subject: Re: TextPlus vs. WordComplete AND CrossingOver
|
| |
Didn't know the server details, but sounds like bigger problems, like their server is down! Oh well, from the number of people that i have read in other forums buying their product, would expect them to be back real soon.
As for WordComplete, I like it because it was much less bulky on the screen. A little box would appear with some suggested words compared to the large space required for TextPlus. I too would expect some fixes with the OS5 upgrade, as it is taking them forever to get something out. If it is not working well after this opportunity to fix it up for all programs, then obviously i'll look elsewhere...or nowhere! But for now, i'm willing to wait merely so i can see most of my screen in a program when it pops up.
Also...for those of you that liked MiddleCapsHack, noticed someone did it for the OS5 users called CrossingOver and it works great thus far for me. I loved it and missed it dearly, now it is just a 2K program in the background that does the same thing, with no hack, etc. Here is the link...oh ya, and it is FREEWARE!...
http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=10360520021204234115&prodID=45513
Enjoy,
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Giberson" <kevin@g...>
wrote:
> would guess maybe the Christmas holidays have more to do with your
problem!
Possibly - but I don't see why "host not found" errors should be
generated from an SMTP delivery. Sort of implies that their server
isn't their anymore.
Anyway... If it is just Xmas then any professional organisation should
have some "out of office" type notification on their systems at the
very least!
Anyway - I'm interested why you selected Wordcomplete over Textplus
(other than support :-). Textplus seems to be far more configurable
and faster than Wordcomplete. Also Wordcomplete failed to work (for
me) in some applications (like Shadow - where it dropped the first
character when entering texts into new entries). TextComplete works
just fine however.
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| 8428 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 0:23am
Subject: SP Bug report: Broken link after deleting ToDo
|
| |
Sorry if this has already been reported - I coulnt find any ref to it
on the codejedi bugs list.
Problem:
I Deleted a linked item in the ToDo App.
Selecting the shadw list warned of broken link - selected 'sever'
Next time I opened the list I got the warning again. I even selected
'Sever' again, then manually saved the list. Same result again.
One thing that did stop the problem was making a change to the list.
After either adding a new item or moving an existing item, I no longer
received the broken link warning.
Configuration:
Running 2.6.0 registered on a IIIc. (All hacks disabled).
TIA
Just found http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/message/6783
After reading that the only thing I dont understand is why the severed
links arnt deleted when I do a manual save (without making any other
changes).
|
| 8429 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 0:31am
Subject: Re: SP Bug report: Broken link after deleting ToDo
|
| |
exactly right, you need to do something in the list to make it go away!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: vjornes <vjornes@y...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:23 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] SP Bug report: Broken link after deleting ToDo
Sorry if this has already been reported - I coulnt find any ref to it
on the codejedi bugs list.
Problem:
I Deleted a linked item in the ToDo App.
Selecting the shadw list warned of broken link - selected 'sever'
Next time I opened the list I got the warning again. I even selected
'Sever' again, then manually saved the list. Same result again.
One thing that did stop the problem was making a change to the list.
After either adding a new item or moving an existing item, I no longer
received the broken link warning.
Configuration:
Running 2.6.0 registered on a IIIc. (All hacks disabled).
TIA
Just found http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/message/6783
After reading that the only thing I dont understand is why the severed
links arnt deleted when I do a manual save (without making any other
changes).
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| 8430 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 0:44am
Subject: Re: SP Bug report: Broken link after deleting ToDo
|
| |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, vjornes <vjornes@y...> wrote:
> Sorry if this has already been reported - I coulnt find any ref to it
> on the codejedi bugs list.
>
> Problem:
> I Deleted a linked item in the ToDo App.
> Selecting the shadw list warned of broken link - selected 'sever'
> Next time I opened the list I got the warning again. I even selected
> 'Sever' again, then manually saved the list. Same result again.
> One thing that did stop the problem was making a change to the list.
> After either adding a new item or moving an existing item, I no longer
> received the broken link warning.
Known and by design from way back. (ie: The sever-all operation
only takes once something has been changed. It will be ignored otherwise,
so you can back-out. (I was experimenting with a series of undo-able
operations and thats the only one I left in :))
> Just found http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/message/6783
> After reading that the only thing I dont understand is why the severed
> links arnt deleted when I do a manual save (without making any other
> changes).
If nothing has changed, a manual save doesn't save either
:) (no changes to save; the sever-all doesn't count as a change.)
Its just one of those things :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 8431 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 0:52am
Subject: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
I can certainly sympathise with avoiding non-standard behaviour -
theres always something unexpected that ends up requiring work-arounds
to work-arounds.
It seems that we need something to run after the conduit has done its
job. I know some apps can run as part of/upon a soft reset. How
about setting a flag to cause a soft reset if the DT requests a new
link to be added, and run the code to do the link creation upon the
forced reset. Soft resets dont usually take long and no data is lost
(AFAIK).
If there are only two options I'd prefer something that runs when SP
itself is run - rather than having to open each list individually
which wouldn't help me much (I split my different Todo categories over
different lists).
> Remember, it would only pop into existance after you open the
> list. I coudl try and build a system to make this happen say the first
> time you run Shadow, or I could make it process links during the
> sync.. but that could be "odd" for other conduits...
> jeff
|
| 8432 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:06am
Subject: Re: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "neilbothams
<neil.bothams@b...>" <neil.bothams@b...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Can any users of megawiki help me out here? How do I do what Jeff is
> suggesting. I have zero knowledge of megawiki. I had a quick look a
> couple of months ago and was put off (unusual - I normally love
> getting to grips with new software).
>
> I am UK based and happy to call someone to work thru this. Thanks
> for all your help as ever.
>
> Bye for now
> Neil
>
>
> > MegaWiki and LinkerHack could certainly do most of this.
> >
> > I am tempted to add some "tricks" to Find to let you jump to
> lists
> > and views and filters...
> >
> > Like a Find for:
> >
> > "Shadow/Myfile/MyView/Myfilter" that sort of thing. That
> would be
> > interesting :)
> >
> > jeff
|
| 8433 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:14am
Subject: Re: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
Isn't the second suggestion Jeff made what you are looking for? When you run Shadow at all it does the linking, as compared to even having to open that same list...isn't that what you desire?
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: vjornes <vjornes@y...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Desktop and linking
I can certainly sympathise with avoiding non-standard behaviour -
theres always something unexpected that ends up requiring work-arounds
to work-arounds.
It seems that we need something to run after the conduit has done its
job. I know some apps can run as part of/upon a soft reset. How
about setting a flag to cause a soft reset if the DT requests a new
link to be added, and run the code to do the link creation upon the
forced reset. Soft resets dont usually take long and no data is lost
(AFAIK).
If there are only two options I'd prefer something that runs when SP
itself is run - rather than having to open each list individually
which wouldn't help me much (I split my different Todo categories over
different lists).
> Remember, it would only pop into existance after you open the
> list. I coudl try and build a system to make this happen say the first
> time you run Shadow, or I could make it process links during the
> sync.. but that could be "odd" for other conduits...
> jeff
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| 8434 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:19am
Subject: Re: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
Let me try that again - I'll try adding some text this time :-)
Megawiki is really worth getting to grips with (IMO) - try the
Quickstart manual...
http://www.megawiki.com/pages/QuickStart
- that'll give you a good idea of the power of it all.
To add links to shadow lists and/or items is easy - I can send you my
piki config memo if that would help - there is acutally a demo one in
the MW installation.
- just contact me off list if you need help.
HOWEVER, I dont think theres any way to get Shadow to open a specific
file WITH a specific filter and view. AFAIK you always get the filter
and view that was applied when you exited out of that list.
I think thats what Jeff was alluding to by 'adding tricks'.
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "neilbothams
<neil.bothams@b...>" <neil.bothams@b...> wrote:
> Can any users of megawiki help me out here? How do I do what Jeff is
> suggesting. I have zero knowledge of megawiki. I had a quick look a
> couple of months ago and was put off (unusual - I normally love
> getting to grips with new software).
> I am UK based and happy to call someone to work thru this. Thanks
> for all your help as ever.
>
> > MegaWiki and LinkerHack could certainly do most of this.
> >
> > I am tempted to add some "tricks" to Find to let you jump to
> lists
> > and views and filters...
> >
> > Like a Find for:
> >
> > "Shadow/Myfile/MyView/Myfilter" that sort of thing. That
> would be
> > interesting :)
> >
> > jeff
|
| 8435 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:20am
Subject: Re: Re: Desktop and linking
|
| |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, vjornes <vjornes@y...> wrote:
> I can certainly sympathise with avoiding non-standard behaviour -
> theres always something unexpected that ends up requiring work-arounds
> to work-arounds.
>
> It seems that we need something to run after the conduit has done its
> job. I know some apps can run as part of/upon a soft reset. How
> about setting a flag to cause a soft reset if the DT requests a new
> link to be added, and run the code to do the link creation upon the
> forced reset. Soft resets dont usually take long and no data is lost
> (AFAIK).
Naaah, theres better methods than this. I'm just planning to spend
most of my time working on other things, so a quick but useful fix is
good, especially if it leads to a better aggregate solution down the road.
I'll meditate on it :)
> If there are only two options I'd prefer something that runs when SP
> itself is run - rather than having to open each list individually
> which wouldn't help me much (I split my different Todo categories over
> different lists).
yeah, I could add a "scan for links" type operation, but I'd more
likely make it automatic.. after you sync, first run would do it or the
like. Would have to be an option of course..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 8436 |
From: vjornes vjornes@y... <vjornes@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 1:32am
Subject: Re: Linking files not items
|
| |
Just install MegaWiki: create a link to Shadow called 'Morning Routine
- click on it and you will be taken directly into the shadow file
called "Morning Routine". (It does have an added advantage that you
can jump right back to db5.)
To be honest, for this simple example Jeffs suggestion is a lot
simpler - have a Morning routine item with the details as children,
after all, that's what an outliners all about - hiding detail.
> For example, I want to create a file named Morning Routine. The
> items in that file will contain breakfast, clean kitchen, feed cats,
> etc.
>
> I want to link Morning Routine to DateBk 5. I do not want the items
> in that file to show up in the to do list. I only want to see
> Morning Routine.
>
> Help??
|
| 8437 |
From: neilbothams neil.bothams@b... <neil.bothams@b...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 7:07pm
Subject: Re: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
> Megawiki is really worth getting to grips with (IMO) - try the
> Quickstart manual...
> http://www.megawiki.com/pages/QuickStart
> - that'll give you a good idea of the power of it all.
Yes I had found this already. It does give me a good feel. Also
found the megawiki forum after posting this!
> To add links to shadow lists and/or items is easy - I can send you
my
> piki config memo if that would help - there is acutally a demo one
in
> the MW installation.
> - just contact me off list if you need help.
A config memo would be appreciated. I will try and set this up and
see how I go.
> HOWEVER, I dont think theres any way to get Shadow to open a
specific
> file WITH a specific filter and view. AFAIK you always get the
filter
> and view that was applied when you exited out of that list.
For me the filter is more important than view. I am also trying to
achieve this through macroplay which should follow keystrokes (but
not grafitti. However the way macroplay needs menus to be written
may not be compatible with SP :-( I have some info on how macroplay
is written if Jeff is interested.
Jeff - where you imagining it was possible to select filters using
megawiki? Any interest in making macroplay work with SP?
Alternatively is there a way of changing the way the menu of filters
are displayed
OPTION 1
I can choose to order the filter list as I want it
OPTION 2
I can choose to put filters into two categories - one set that appear
as now (including custom) and one where all other filters are
available but this second set are placed at the bottom of the list or
require an extra tap.
The power of being able to jump from Datebook to a particular
filtered SP list is quite awesome even if I havent explained it that
well yet ;-)
|
| 8438 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Dec 31, 2002 7:23pm
Subject: Re: Re: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, neilbothams <neil.bothams@b...> wrote:
> Jeff - where you imagining it was possible to select filters using
> megawiki? Any interest in making macroplay work with SP?
Never heard of macroplay.
I had considered making certain Find strings do certain things, as
I think you could set up MegaWiki to use thoe strings. Or perhaps setup
another little app that knows how to launch Shadow and tell it to go to
certain views, or something. *shrug*. Tough to do well.
> Alternatively is there a way of changing the way the menu of filters
> are displayed
>
> OPTION 1
> I can choose to order the filter list as I want it
We'll likely put up/down pusher arrows on the filter listing.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
|
| 8439 |
From: neilbothams neil.bothams@b... <neil.bothams@b...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 10:51am
Subject: Re: Megawiki WAS: How to jump to the right list of tasks from datebook
|
| |
Happy New Year all!
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
wrote:
> Never heard of macroplay.
Have sent you an email with some details
> I had considered making certain Find strings do certain
things, as
> I think you could set up MegaWiki to use thoe strings. Or perhaps
setup
> another little app that knows how to launch Shadow and tell it to
go to
> certain views, or something. *shrug*. Tough to do well.
Sounds like Nirvana ;-)
> > Alternatively is there a way of changing the way the menu of
filters
> > are displayed
> >
> We'll likely put up/down pusher arrows on the filter listing.
>
Cool!
Neil
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| 8440 |
From: gf_gollum gf_gollum@y... <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 0:09pm
Subject: Re: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
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--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Giberson" <kevin@g...>
wrote:
> would guess maybe the Christmas holidays have more to do with your
problem!
Registration code appeared to day after an e-mail to Palmgear.. No
explanation for the delya thought :-)
Graham
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| 8441 |
From: imhvfn fkissam@b... <fkissam@b...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 3:28pm
Subject: Good desktop outliner and synch with Palm?
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I am looking for a good and easy PC desktop outliner that will synch
well with the Palm.
I would like to know of a comparison among: Shadowplan, Progect,
EccoPro, and other available choices.
does anybody have any comparisons or strong opinions?
Thank you.
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| 8442 |
From: grant_robertson_66046 grantr@s... <grantr@s...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 4:33pm
Subject: Re: shadow and outlook gtd add-in
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--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "amelchi2001
<alessandromelchiorre@i...>" <alessandromelchiorre@i...> wrote:
>
> I think Shadow will be the best Palm apllication to match the
> GTD outook add-in; its capabilities of grouping to-dos is the
> lacking feature of the too simple To-do default application.
Where can I get more info on the GTD Outlook Add-in?
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| 8443 |
From: grant_robertson_66046 grantr@s... <grantr@s...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 4:54pm
Subject: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
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--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
wrote:
>
> I'm tempted to add a handler for "next field" (straight
> down/up) to implicitly hit the checkmark (OK) in the mini
> editor.. thoughts?
How about doing away with the mini editor and using in place editing
like thought manager?
Although I have found that using MegaWiki to link out of
ThoughtManager doesn't work unless you use the Clipi add-in. But
since you can link out of ShadowPlan to other SP files and the Basic-
4, even if MegaWiki wouldn't link out of SP with in-place editing it
wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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| 8444 |
From: grant_robertson_66046 grantr@s... <grantr@s...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 5:18pm
Subject: Re: Storing Outlines in Memory Cards, Editable & Linkable?
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--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Giberson" <kevin@g...>
wrote:
> Doesn't the program PowerRun take care of this issue? From what i
read and recall from my own use, seems to do what you are looking to
do. Anyone know for sure?
I downloaded PowerRun. From the manual I can see a few problems but
they may be tolerable.
* Hot Sync will not backup that application and its data. Therefore
I will have to set BackupBuddy to backup the memory stick. Of
course, I probably would have had to do that anyway to keep from
loosing my huge lists.
* Global find cannot find data in that application, except when the
application is running. This would mean I couldn't use MegaWiki to
link to SP files form other applications.
* Application conduits will not work. Forget about using the desktop
application. I think this one would be the deal breaker for me.
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| 8445 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 6:06pm
Subject: Re: Good desktop outliner and synch with Palm?
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Strong opinion...Shadowplan.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: imhvfn <fkissam@b...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:28 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Good desktop outliner and synch with Palm?
I am looking for a good and easy PC desktop outliner that will synch
well with the Palm.
I would like to know of a comparison among: Shadowplan, Progect,
EccoPro, and other available choices.
does anybody have any comparisons or strong opinions?
Thank you.
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| 8446 |
From: T L Holaday <0zo4vmfs02@s...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 6:29pm
Subject: Re: Good desktop outliner and synch with Palm?
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> I would like to know of a comparison among: Shadowplan, Progect,
> EccoPro, and other available choices.
Shadowplan lets you outline both on the Palm and on the desktop with the
Shadowplan destop application. It links to other Palm applications on the
Palm (so an unskilled user can do something straightforward in the outliner
which causes an entry to appear in the Datebook or the ToDo list, for
example, and who knows what a skilled user might be able to pull off). It
is under active development, so future enhancements would seem to require
getting the developer's attention and compensating him.
EccoPro lets you outline on the desktop but not on the Palm (outlines are
synched as memos), and replaces the Palm Desktop with its own very capable
integrated application (the Palm Desktop will no longer synch with the
Palm). It has an active user community, but the source code to the engine
is lost, so future enhancements would seem to require (a) reverse
engineering (b) DDE stuff (c) filters (d) learn assember and sneer or (e)
rediscovery of the source code.
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| 8447 |
From: neilbothams neil.bothams@b... <neil.bothams@b...>
Date: Wed Jan 1, 2003 9:41pm
Subject: Re: shadow and outlook gtd add-in
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--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "amelchi2001
<alessandromelchiorre@i...>" <alessandromelchiorre@i...> wrote:
> "...the problem is that the Project list is a sort of collecting
task of
> many different tasks (send an email, phone to somebody, write
> down an article, etc...) that after becomes actions... in GTDOA
> they are related and grouped adding a field to the records (the
> field Project) but in Palm todo? they are only a collection of
> individual tasks with no grouping (under the project name) and
> no relationships with actions..."
>
> please think of it, many many users of Outlook will be grateful!
>
>
> thanks
> alessandro
Just to let you know that I am working with both this add-in and
taskline which can be found at www.taskline.info
Taskline helps you schedule tasks (i.e copy them into your calendar)
based on due by dates i.e. finds the way to make sure you hit your
deadlines. You just need to tell taskline how long you estimate each
task will take.
Neil
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| 8448 |
From: cyndideal cyndeal@b... <cyndeal@b...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 1:13am
Subject: Re: Smartcell (Textplus / Pictureplus)
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Hi Graham,
I was the one who recommended TextPlus. I checked their website and
it seemed ok so I wrote them. They responded so I am forwarding their
response to you. It seems that they have done some hardware changes
and may have lost email. Hope all is resolved quickly.
Sincerely,
Cyndi Deal
their response:
Please forward us the order number or the username for the order.
We need this information to locate his order.
We had done a server upgrade recently. During this process some
email may have been lost. We apologize for any inconvenience this
may have caused you.
SmartCell Technology Support
Can you forward
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| 8449 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 3:42am
Subject: Re: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, grant_robertson_66046 <grantr@s...> wrote:
> > I'm tempted to add a handler for "next field" (straight
> > down/up) to implicitly hit the checkmark (OK) in the mini
> > editor.. thoughts?
>
> How about doing away with the mini editor and using in place editing
> like thought manager?
We'll see. The ME is handy since it still keeps some item
context.. you can bring up the detail window easily and such. Doing away
with the ME and just using pure inline would be good for writers I
imagine, but detaches things from the details windows so we'd have to add
some systems there. We'll see.. got other things in the sites right now.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8450 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 3:43am
Subject: Re: Re: Storing Outlines in Memory Cards, Editable & Linkable?
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, grant_robertson_66046 <grantr@s...> wrote:
> * Application conduits will not work. Forget about using the desktop
> application. I think this one would be the deal breaker for me.
Shadow will sync if the application is on card.. as long as
ShadowSync is in main memory. ShadowSync is about 3k so no one can
complain about it :) (We deliberately built it so you could offload Shadow
and safe 250k of main RAM :) (Prior to Shadow 2.6 you needed Shadow in
main memory)
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8451 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 3:54am
Subject: Paranoid?
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Had an idea today (thanks Mr. Tomato!)...
A global pref for those whose data is super important (needs to
survive a crash, dropping of the unit and smashing it, etc).
"Save every 5 minutes when unit is on"?
Thoughts?
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8452 |
From: rblanzan rblanzan@i... <rblanzan@i...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 5:29am
Subject: Re: Paranoid?
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
wrote:
>
> Had an idea today (thanks Mr. Tomato!)...
>
> A global pref for those whose data is super important (needs
to
> survive a crash, dropping of the unit and smashing it, etc).
>
> "Save every 5 minutes when unit is on"?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "Have you played Atari today?"
hmm, new sig line ... ;-)
Maybe 10 or 15 minutes, I don't achieve that much in 5 minutes, my
graffiti is hopeless. How would that affect SP if I am working in
it, would it noticeable when the save occured?
Rita
|
| 8453 |
From: Ken Latham clatham1@t... <clatham1@t...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 6:07am
Subject: Re: Paranoid?
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
wrote:
>
> Had an idea today (thanks Mr. Tomato!)...
>
> A global pref for those whose data is super important (needs to
> survive a crash, dropping of the unit and smashing it, etc).
>
> "Save every 5 minutes when unit is on"?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "Have you played Atari today?"
I've always saved at "critical points" manually since its so easy...
I kinda don't like the performance interruption you get from automatic
saves... even on a PC...
<shrug> (as long as their'd be a way to turn it off... but I *don't*
need to say that ... do I! :) )
Ken
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| 8454 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 7:20am
Subject: Re: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
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i like the handler for next field idea!
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, grant_robertson_66046 <grantr@s...> wrote:
> > I'm tempted to add a handler for "next field" (straight
> > down/up) to implicitly hit the checkmark (OK) in the mini
> > editor.. thoughts?
>
> How about doing away with the mini editor and using in place editing
> like thought manager?
We'll see. The ME is handy since it still keeps some item
context.. you can bring up the detail window easily and such. Doing away
with the ME and just using pure inline would be good for writers I
imagine, but detaches things from the details windows so we'd have to add
some systems there. We'll see.. got other things in the sites right now.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8455 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 7:21am
Subject: Re: Re: Storing Outlines in Memory Cards, Editable & Linkable?
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and it syncs fine with it used through PowerRun too!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Re: Storing Outlines in Memory Cards, Editable & Linkable?
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, grant_robertson_66046 <grantr@s...> wrote:
> * Application conduits will not work. Forget about using the desktop
> application. I think this one would be the deal breaker for me.
Shadow will sync if the application is on card.. as long as
ShadowSync is in main memory. ShadowSync is about 3k so no one can
complain about it :) (We deliberately built it so you could offload Shadow
and safe 250k of main RAM :) (Prior to Shadow 2.6 you needed Shadow in
main memory)
jeff
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| 8456 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 7:23am
Subject: Re: Paranoid?
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or save every 5 minutes IF it is not being used right then, since it is pretty quick to save it seems, unless the saving does not interrupt use in any noticeable manner.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Paranoid?
Had an idea today (thanks Mr. Tomato!)...
A global pref for those whose data is super important (needs to
survive a crash, dropping of the unit and smashing it, etc).
"Save every 5 minutes when unit is on"?
Thoughts?
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8457 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 1:22pm
Subject: Re: Re: Paranoid?
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, rblanzan <rblanzan@i...> wrote:
> > "Have you played Atari today?"
>
> hmm, new sig line ... ;-)
Yeah, kept my last one going for about 3 years.. figured it was
time for a change :)
> Maybe 10 or 15 minutes, I don't achieve that much in 5 minutes, my
> graffiti is hopeless. How would that affect SP if I am working in it,
> would it noticeable when the save occured?
Only if its noticable when you save now.. ie: For very large
files. Thats why it woudl be an option.. just a security for people who
really dont' want to lose anything. *shrug*.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8458 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
|
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On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> i like the handler for next field idea!
Its in the current alpha, so should be in next release.
I'm thinking of getting 2.7 out soon with not any giant changes,
but good and solid for the new units. Then get a quick 2.8 out with
virtual grafitti and maybe some other stuff.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8459 |
From: tsuchy tsuchy@y... <tsuchy@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 1:59pm
Subject: Re: Paranoid?
|
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Don't know if this would be much more difficult, but why not make it a
per-file configurable option (enter number of minutes, 0 to disable)?
-Tom
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, rblanzan <rblanzan@i...> wrote:
>
> > > "Have you played Atari today?"
> >
> > hmm, new sig line ... ;-)
>
> Yeah, kept my last one going for about 3 years.. figured it was
> time for a change :)
>
> > Maybe 10 or 15 minutes, I don't achieve that much in 5 minutes, my
> > graffiti is hopeless. How would that affect SP if I am working in it,
> > would it noticeable when the save occured?
>
> Only if its noticable when you save now.. ie: For very large
> files. Thats why it woudl be an option.. just a security for people who
> really dont' want to lose anything. *shrug*.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8460 |
From: tsuchy tsuchy@y... <tsuchy@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 2:09pm
Subject: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
|
| |
I think MegaWiki uses the field-up field-down graffiti strokes to
handle next-app/previous-app switching (unless it's EasyLaunch, i'm
not really sure, I just noticed it and haven't isolated it).
How will Shadow interface with this when it's implemented?
-Tom
--- In shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Kevin Giberson wrote:
>
> > i like the handler for next field idea!
>
> Its in the current alpha, so should be in next release.
>
> I'm thinking of getting 2.7 out soon with not any giant changes,
> but good and solid for the new units. Then get a quick 2.8 out with
> virtual grafitti and maybe some other stuff.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "Have you played Atari today?"
|
| 8461 |
From: Juan A. Barcia <Juan.A.Barcia@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 2:22pm
Subject: Colors
|
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Jeff:
The color theming idea is great.
However, I miss another application of coloring items. Would it be possible
to color the text of each item depending on an item's feature?. So one could
choose to uniformly color one category, priority, indentation level or
past/future due. For example, one could choose to color priority 1 with a
chosen color (red), priority 2 in orange, priority 3 in green, an so on.
This could be a list preference or a customizable view. This would add
clarity and reduce visual clutter, letting one to eliminate a column of
information or an indentation space from a view.
Sorry if this idea has been already discussed before.
Juan.
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| 8462 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 2:28pm
Subject: Re: Re: faster dismiss of mini editor
|
| |
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, tsuchy <tsuchy@y...> wrote:
> I think MegaWiki uses the field-up field-down graffiti strokes to
> handle next-app/previous-app switching (unless it's EasyLaunch, i'm
> not really sure, I just noticed it and haven't isolated it).
>
> How will Shadow interface with this when it's implemented?
Depends how they've implemented the Hack. It would be likely
Shadow woudln't see that grafitti stroke if the Hack gobbles it.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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| 8463 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jan 2, 2003 2:29pm
Subject: Re: Colors
|
| |
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Juan A. Barcia wrote:
> The color theming idea is great.
Wait till 2.7.. its pretty neat.
> However, I miss another application of coloring items. Would it be
> possible to color the text of each item depending on an item's
> feature?. So one could choose to uniformly color one category,
> priority, indentation level or past/future due. For example, one could
> choose to color priority 1 with a chosen color (red), priority 2 in
> orange, priority 3 in green, an so on. This could be a list preference
> or a customizable view. This would add clarity and reduce visual
> clutter, letting one to eliminate a column of information or an
> indentation space from a view. Sorry if this idea has been already
> discussed before.
This sort of thign will come a little later; I'm going to totally
revamp the "hilight" subsystem, so you can have multiple hilights
(perhaps), and hilights being custom filters.. so you can define them
arbitrarily.
jeff
--
"Have you played Atari today?"
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