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| 7601 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:16pm
Subject: Re: Honeymoon's over: More(New?) feature requests
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Guillermo Cremerius wrote:
> I second this one
>
> > my top one is... Is there a way to show tag associations on the
> > desktop? and eventually filter with/by them on the desktop?
For sure.
> And this one too... :)
>
> > Thanks again for a truly remarkable program... that already does more
> > that i would've thought of asking for...
Thanks :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7602 |
From: tljr_2000 <tlj1@c...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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Jeff,
I just downloaded Shadow 2.6b5. I have two lists that I am working
with. Regardless of which list I'm using, whenever I try to open
the "Preferences" (List > Preferences), I get a Fatal Alert Message
that says "Category.c, Line:528, Bad Category". There is also
a "Reset" button at the bottom of the Fatal Alert window that I have
to hit which then, obviously, performs a soft reset on my Sony Clie
T665. I was doing a lot of work with these lists last night and did
not have this problem. Can you tell what might be causing this?
Todd
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to those who've gotten back to me with feedback about
the
> other betas and alphas! It has been very helpful! I think b5 is
getting
> very close to release quality.
>
> NOTE: This is BETA. It is pretty darned stable, but it may
have
> niggles.
>
> Fixed from b4 to b5; new list, new items, don't crash anymore.
> When upgrading 3rd party toolkits, that broke behind the scenes.
>
> FEEDBACK Requirement:
>
> If you download this, you must post to this group, or to me,
or to
> shadow-test, an opinion or comment.. good, bad, things you hate,
things
> that are broken, etc. If I don't get any "good" replies, I don't
know if
> it works. If I don't get any "broken" replies, I release this to the
> public broken! Please give me your feedback! :)
>
> That said, you've already seen a prior beta (beta 1 or 2?) and
> this has been through shadow-test for awhile, so its pretty darned
> stable. I've updated some behind the scenes toolkits though, so
please
> test the entire thing over! New files, old files, printing,
everything
> you'd like to normally do!
>
> Get it here:
>
> http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/shadow-test/shadow26b5win.zip
>
> This includes the install so is easy to install. The
documentation
> is not yet updated to reflect changes since 2.5.0 release.
>
> New stuff: Desktop offers drag and drop and
promote/demote/push
> arrows, as well as lots of fixes all over the place. Theres an
essentially
> all new conduit with progress bar, new sync logic, new super safe
> mechanisms and backups, and very keen configuration screen to let
you set
> options however you like them. You can also move Shadow Plan itself
to
> memory card or the like, and the sync will proceed.. save yourself a
> couple hundred K of main memory :)
>
> So run the installer, and away you go :) Be sure to visit
Hotsync
> Manager Custom settings to configure Shadow Conduit the way you'd
like.
>
> Please post back ASAP with your opinions.. I want to release
this
> very soon, so if theres no issues in the next couple of days, I'll
be
> letting it out ASAP.
>
> Mac: Yes, your beta is coming. We're just doing alpha testing
> now..
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7603 |
From: bstryd610 <bstryd@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:50pm
Subject: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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Jeff,
The new desktop stuff seemed to be working well in the beta1 I have
been using. However, I just instaffed the beta5 and, checking my
custom settings in the HotSync Manager, I discovered I now have two
ShadowPlan sync conduits. I don't know if that just happened or if it
happended with beta1.
Bruce
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| 7604 |
From: Jim Roberson <gocats@e...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:20pm
Subject:
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Jeff,
I have the same situation, two ShadowPlan sync conduits. I just
installed Beta5 this morning.
Jim
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| 7605 |
From: tljr_2000 <tlj1@c...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:55pm
Subject:
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Jeff,
FYI ... I came across the same situation (2 ShadowPlan sync conduits)
last night. This was BEFORE I installed Beta5 this morning.
Todd
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jim Roberson <gocats@e...> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> I have the same situation, two ShadowPlan sync conduits. I just
> installed Beta5 this morning.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| 7606 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:13pm
Subject: Re: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, tljr_2000 wrote:
> I just downloaded Shadow 2.6b5. I have two lists that I am working
> with. Regardless of which list I'm using, whenever I try to open
> the "Preferences" (List > Preferences), I get a Fatal Alert Message
> that says "Category.c, Line:528, Bad Category". There is also
In the file selection screen, on the right side, is the file
operations popmenu; tap it for this file, and pick Category, and set a
category. When certain things occur, the OS can forget the category and it
can confuse a coulpe of things. I'll be fixing that later.
> a "Reset" button at the bottom of the Fatal Alert window that I have
> to hit which then, obviously, performs a soft reset on my Sony Clie
> T665. I was doing a lot of work with these lists last night and did
> not have this problem. Can you tell what might be causing this?
Not sure. It seems to be very rare, but a category can get
forgotten for a file (it si not even in Unfiled, it just not categorized
:)
You can force it to happen by making a new file on the desktop,
sending it up to the handheld, and it will not yet have a category until
you've opened and closed it on the handheld. But that shoudln't be too
common. *Shrug*
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7607 |
From: bstryd610 <bstryd@a...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:26pm
Subject: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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Jeff, I also just noticed that when I delete an item in the desktop,
the Shadow "home" window is forced to the top along with the dialog
box. I don't believe this used to happen. I know I deleted a couple
of items yesterday (using beta1) and it did not occur. This little
glitch happened using the latest beta5 stuff after using the install.
Bruce
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| 7608 |
From: davchrwoo <davchrwoo@h...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:50pm
Subject: Agendus
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Can anyone tell me why my links to Agendus always come up in
meeting view with random, and often, past dates?
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| 7609 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, bstryd610 wrote:
> Jeff, I also just noticed that when I delete an item in the desktop,
> the Shadow "home" window is forced to the top along with the dialog
> box. I don't believe this used to happen. I know I deleted a couple of
> items yesterday (using beta1) and it did not occur. This little glitch
> happened using the latest beta5 stuff after using the install.
I'll see if theres anything I can do easily withuot riskign
retesting the whole shbang. If not, I'll let it out as a public release as
is, but follow up with incremental updates fast. (ie: I dont' want to
delay release another month, but when the public release goes out and I
have to to fling alphas aruond again, we can do all the fun stuff :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7610 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 8:33pm
Subject: Re: (unknown)
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, tljr_2000 wrote:
> FYI ... I came across the same situation (2 ShadowPlan sync conduits)
> last night. This was BEFORE I installed Beta5 this morning.
Its a non-issue. It resolves itself and is supposed to
happen. (ie: Since you ca nove move Shadow to memory stick or VFS or the
like, the conduit had to change a little. You briefly see two conduits,
but the old one goes away on its own after yuo restart hotsync manager
after a sync, and it never sycns twice. So this is all by design :)
jeff
>
> Todd
>
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jim Roberson <gocats@e...> wrote:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I have the same situation, two ShadowPlan sync conduits. I just
> > installed Beta5 this morning.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7611 |
From: John Hatto <jhatto@b...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 9:51pm
Subject: Re: [Shadow-desktop] Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
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The Handheld appear to be working fine but when I try to use the desktop
to enter data using New File, Shadow has to close due to an error.
Shadow on desktop (1.2.3) allows me to modify existing files. If I use
the child icon I get an error message telling me to add a main issue but
if I do that a fatal error occurs and the program closes.
I am using a Dell Notebook running Windows 2K Pro which is not behaving
well since I installed Service Pack 3 so it may be that. I have not
been able to locate the error message Windows claimed to generate. Can
anyone suggest where to find it?
Dr Watson show Exception number: c0000005 (access violation) and lots
more, which I will send to Jeff if asked.
I will experiment further but am away for a day or two so am reporting
now.
Great Program Jeff.
Regards
John
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| 7612 |
From: PocketGoddess <jen@p...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:18pm
Subject: RE: Agendus
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Because they haven't published their data formats and it's impossible
for other programs like Shadow to jump to the exact right spot.
Jen
-------------
PocketGoddess
http://www.pocketgoddess.com
98% Palm OS, 100% Fun!
-----Original Message-----
From: davchrwoo [mailto:davchrwoo@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:50 PM
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Agendus
Can anyone tell me why my links to Agendus always come up in
meeting view with random, and often, past dates?
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| 7613 |
From: Rita <rblanzan@i...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:46pm
Subject: Fatal Alert
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Jeff
I've been getting an annoying fatal alert as follows:
MemoryMgr.c, Line: 4365, NULL handle
It seems to happen when I close a list or exit SP after I have moved a
particular item in the list and changed the todo category link. The only
difference between this item and other items in the list is that I have
copied it from another item and changed part of the description. At least,
I think that this is what is causing it as the item has a severed link after
the reset.
Having said that, I have tried to reproduce the error but it wasn't being
co-operative.
Rita
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| 7614 |
From: Rita <rblanzan@i...>
Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 10:46pm
Subject: RE: Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
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Jeff
Just a couple of small things that you might already be aware of:
Print Preview: the page count at the bottom left hand corner of the screen
shows xx of 999. Also, I found that when I first open the print preview and
expand the window to full size, the screen doesn't refresh properly.
Mouse Pointer: the mouse pointer, if it crosses the main window of a list
to the memo section changes to <-> and stays like that untill another action
is performed eg. type something or move the cursor outside of the window.
I love the print preview :)
Rita
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| 7615 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:59am
Subject: Re: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, bstryd610 wrote:
> The new desktop stuff seemed to be working well in the beta1 I have
> been using. However, I just instaffed the beta5 and, checking my
> custom settings in the HotSync Manager, I discovered I now have two
> ShadowPlan sync conduits. I don't know if that just happened or if it
> happended with beta1.
This is supposed to happen. It'll go away on its own once you
restart your machine or hotsync manager, and have synced once with the new
conduit.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7616 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:59am
Subject: Re:
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Jim Roberson wrote:
> I have the same situation, two ShadowPlan sync conduits. I just
> installed Beta5 this morning.
Supposed to happen.
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7617 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:01am
Subject: Re: Re: [Shadow-desktop] Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, John Hatto wrote:
> The Handheld appear to be working fine but when I try to use the desktop
> to enter data using New File, Shadow has to close due to an error.
Fixed in windows beta 5 and upcoming mac alpha 2. Grab todays
beta and away you go :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7618 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:07am
Subject: Re: Fatal Alert
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rita wrote:
> I've been getting an annoying fatal alert as follows:
> MemoryMgr.c, Line: 4365, NULL handle
Which OS version and unit?
> It seems to happen when I close a list or exit SP after I have moved a
> particular item in the list and changed the todo category link. The
> only difference between this item and other items in the list is that
> I have copied it from another item and changed part of the
> description. At least, I think that this is what is causing it as the
> item has a severed link after the reset.
I hear of this error once in a blue moon; I'd put it on the
super-rare list (only seen it reported about 4 times?), and I've never
seen it. Need a way to reproduce it..
> Having said that, I have tried to reproduce the error but it wasn't
> being co-operative.
Damn thing :) Screw software, who needs it :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7619 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:09am
Subject: Re: RE: Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rita wrote:
> Print Preview: the page count at the bottom left hand corner of the
> screen shows xx of 999. Also, I found that when I first open the
> print preview and expand the window to full size, the screen doesn't
> refresh properly.
"999" means "until done"; I can't change it very easily :/
> Mouse Pointer: the mouse pointer, if it crosses the main window of a
> list to the memo section changes to <-> and stays like that untill
> another action is performed eg. type something or move the cursor
> outside of the window.
It should be <|> only for the middle 1/5 inch between the two
panes. I'll try it out.
> I love the print preview :)
:)
I should trick it into using a smaller font..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7620 |
From: Guillermo Cremerius <guillermo@c...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:17am
Subject: Re: RE: Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
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Jeff,
I noticed this too... maybe for the next release, right?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rita <rblanzan@i...>
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 8:46:07 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] RE: Shadow 2.6 Beta 4 (Windows) Available
> Jeff
> Just a couple of small things that you might already be aware of:
> Print Preview: the page count at the bottom left hand corner of the screen
> shows xx of 999. Also, I found that when I first open the print preview and
> expand the window to full size, the screen doesn't refresh properly.
> Mouse Pointer: the mouse pointer, if it crosses the main window of a list
> to the memo section changes to <-> and stays like that untill another action
> is performed eg. type something or move the cursor outside of the window.
> I love the print preview :)
> Rita
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
--
--Guillermo Cremerius------------------------------
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| 7621 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:24am
Subject: Re: Agendus
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are you saying if i link and my program for appointments is agendus (still a lame name, should have stuck with the old) that some end up on the wrong day? very concerned if that is the case.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: PocketGoddess
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Agendus
Because they haven't published their data formats and it's impossible
for other programs like Shadow to jump to the exact right spot.
Jen
-------------
PocketGoddess
http://www.pocketgoddess.com
98% Palm OS, 100% Fun!
-----Original Message-----
From: davchrwoo [mailto:davchrwoo@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:50 PM
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Agendus
Can anyone tell me why my links to Agendus always come up in
meeting view with random, and often, past dates?
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| 7622 |
From: vjornes <vjornes@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:27am
Subject: How to upgrade?
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The manual recommends incremental upgrades between major releases.
I want to install 2.6. Beta 5 (from the desktop group) ... I currently
have 2.2.1.
Presumably I should install 2.3.x, then 2.4.x then 2.5.x and run and
register each one before I install 2.6.
The shadow web site only has the 2.5 release and this groups
files section (RELEASES) only has 1.5.6 and 1.5.14.
Any ideas where I can obtain the others (2.3 & 2.4)?
Thanks.
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| 7623 |
From: Rita <rblanzan@i...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:17am
Subject: Re: Fatal Alert
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> > I've been getting an annoying fatal alert as follows:
> > MemoryMgr.c, Line: 4365, NULL handle
>
> Which OS version and unit?
4.1 on T615, but if it's rare, don't worry about it, as soon as the
task is completed, I expect the problem to be gone also.
> > Having said that, I have tried to reproduce the error but it
wasn't
> > being co-operative.
>
> Damn thing :) Screw software, who needs it :)
>
OK, I'll go read old posts on plain vanilla GTD on the GTD list. :)
Rita
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| 7624 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 0:48pm
Subject: Re: Agendus
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> are you saying if i link and my program for appointments is agendus
> (still a lame name, should have stuck with the old) that some end up
> on the wrong day? very concerned if that is the case.
Datebook-type gotos shoudl work fine, as should ToDo-type gotos. I
think Address gotos may crash or may go a random todo/datebook item (their
bad). TD and DB gotos should work fine, as we've reverse engineered that
much and no one has had problems in years, I think. If there have been
issues, let me know! (and let Iambic know, they're twits sometimes :/)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7625 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:29pm
Subject: Re: How to upgrade?
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, vjornes wrote:
> The manual recommends incremental upgrades between major releases. I
> want to install 2.6. Beta 5 (from the desktop group) ... I currently
> have 2.2.1. Presumably I should install 2.3.x, then 2.4.x then 2.5.x
> and run and register each one before I install 2.6. The shadow web
> site only has the 2.5 release and this groups files section (RELEASES)
> only has 1.5.6 and 1.5.14.
You never need to re-enter registration codes, unless it becomes
unregistered. Going from 2.2 to 2.5 should work okay, but with such a
large jump you may need to re-enter the code. However, going 2.2 to 2.3 to
2.4 you'd probably not need to enter a code, as it should be picked up as
it goes.
I'd try 2.2 to 2.5; it should be fine. If needed, I've got all the
releases so we can rewind as necessary, but all Shadows know how to read
all previous Shadows data formats and things, so you needn't worry too
much. I'd just run the installer and go with it. Going from 1.0 to 2.5
would be nasty maybe, but 2.2 isn't so far back.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7626 |
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:57pm
Subject: Jog dial feature request
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If a list is a checklist, then I'd like to see that clicking on an an entry with the jog dial, toggles the checkbox (rather than expands the entry for editing). This allows one handed operation of a checklist whilst shopping <grin>.
Oh OK - make it a list specific option then..<bigger grin>
Thanks for listening
Graham (just back off hols - and downloading beta 5 as I type)
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| 7627 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:44pm
Subject: Re: Jog dial feature request
|
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, gf_gollum wrote:
> If a list is a checklist, then I'd like to see that clicking on an an
> entry with the jog dial, toggles the checkbox (rather than expands the
> entry for editing). This allows one handed operation of a checklist
> whilst shopping <grin>.
Eegads; you must be stopped!
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7628 |
From: kasmesa <samir.kasme@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:49pm
Subject: 2 or 3 little things
|
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Hello
Just thought I would throw in 2 or 3 little featurette requests, who
knows maybe they can make it in Rel. 2.6?...
1) Shortcuts:
a shortcut on "Zoom inside level" would be great. It can only be
reached by Menu (also the 'v' button, but that's impractical
somehow... too many things in there). what about "/ Z" which is not
used yet?
Also a shortcut for List Preferences would be very useful, this
command is actually used quite frequently (at least I do)
2) "IN" list
Many of us like to use a SP list as an inbox "on the fly" during the
day, leaving the categorizing / sorting for later, when you have time
for planning: this inbox gets really useful only if it's VERY quickly
reached: a good way would be a HW button within Shadow that would
open a specific list: HW button to open SP, same HW button to open my
IN list: a "double-click", you can't get faster that that.
Heck, I think I would even give up the "recent files" function by HW
button (although I use it all the time) in favour of that. Or maybe
it could become an option (either Recent files or Inbox opening? Or
have it only active from the Files selection screen, coupled with an
option to close the list you are on exiting SP? These are only
suggestions, I'm sure Jeff could come up whith much cleverer ways to
do this..
3) Sony Hi-Res
What's the status on col-bg and hi-res? The last I read on the list
(and that's what I can see on my T615) is that col-bg only works in
SP mixed hi-res mode. I don't like this mode because the "twisties"
get much too small, so I must give up on col-bg for the moment, which
is really too bad cause it's great... Will there be a change in rel.
2.6 on that?
Thanks in advance for your reply, and looking forward on the enhanced
Desktop!
Samir
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| 7629 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:31pm
Subject: Re: 2 or 3 little things
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, kasmesa wrote:
> Just thought I would throw in 2 or 3 little featurette requests, who
> knows maybe they can make it in Rel. 2.6?...
2.6 is on target for release in a few days, so nothing will change
in it unless some nasty horrible bug gets reveasled in the public
beta. Anything new will go into 2.7..
> a shortcut on "Zoom inside level" would be great. It can only be
> reached by Menu (also the 'v' button, but that's impractical
> somehow... too many things in there). what about "/ Z" which is not
> used yet?
We'd need a shortcut for zoom out, too :/
> Also a shortcut for List Preferences would be very useful, this
> command is actually used quite frequently (at least I do)
What do you need to go there often for?
> reached: a good way would be a HW button within Shadow that would
> open a specific list: HW button to open SP, same HW button to open my
> IN list: a "double-click", you can't get faster that that.
> Heck, I think I would even give up the "recent files" function by HW
> button (although I use it all the time) in favour of that. Or maybe
> it could become an option (either Recent files or Inbox opening? Or
> have it only active from the Files selection screen, coupled with an
> option to close the list you are on exiting SP? These are only
> suggestions, I'm sure Jeff could come up whith much cleverer ways to
> do this..
Its possible; Recent Files is pretty good at its job. Taking over
hardkeys is amazingly uncool (since maybe you want to go the Datebook ;),
even when you set up a pref to enable it or disable it. You could use any
of a number of Megawiki type hacks to jump to a specific file. I coudl
build something in, to make table of contents type files more useful, but
I'm not sure hardkeys aer the way to go?
> What's the status on col-bg and hi-res? The last I read on the list
> (and that's what I can see on my T615) is that col-bg only works in
> SP mixed hi-res mode. I don't like this mode because the "twisties"
> get much too small, so I must give up on col-bg for the moment, which
> is really too bad cause it's great... Will there be a change in rel.
> 2.6 on that?
col-bg is disabled in highres assist because of a bug in the sony
OS that crashes the unit. Theres nothing I can do abuot it.. bug sony to
fix it :) Its been in all their Clies, and they know about it :/
Gotta run.. sorry for the quick reply!
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7630 |
From: pfieldho_99 <pfieldho_99@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:36pm
Subject: Filter Manager
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Jeff,
Well the suggestions are coming fast and furious aren't they? No rest
for the developer!!
The one I have at the moment is a little one (I think). I would like
to see the tap zones for the filter manager changed from (left to
right) "done", "apply", "describe" to "apply", "cancel", "describe".
I don't know how many countless times I have gone in there, picked my
filter criterion, and then hit "done" on my way out, resulting in no
action. It seems intuitive to me that the most likely thing, if
someone goes into filter manager, is to apply it, secondarily
canceling out because they realize they don't want to be in there.
Paul
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| 7631 |
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Jog dial feature request
|
| |
>>This allows one handed operation of a checklist
> > whilst shopping <grin>.
>
> Eegads; you must be stopped!
EH?.. I said SHOPPING - not driving!.. Oh.. perhaps I've exceeded my suggestion quota for the year?
Graham
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| 7632 |
From: Roy van der Woning <rvanderwoning@y...>
Date: Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:37pm
Subject: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> FEEDBACK Requirement:
>
> If you download this, you must post to this group,
> or to me, or to shadow-test, an opinion or comment..
I love the new drag & drop, move and promote/demote features in the
desktop application. Those were the once I was really waiting for
before I would start using the desktop.
I do have one complaint/wish (depending on how you look at it :)).
When I drag an item (A) on top of another one (B), A ends up as a
sibling of B while I would intuitively have expected to get A as a
child of B. This is how most (if not all) Windows applications work.
For example, when I drag a folder on top of another in Windows
Explorer, that folder ends up inside of the other, not on the same
level.
You probably designed it this way because it's closest to how the
handheld application works and because it allows for changing the
order of items. Still I feel that deviating from an established UI
paradigm almost always leads to user error and confusion.
In other words: what does it take to make you rethink this
decision? :)
(if this design is the result of consensus from a previous
vote/discussion, I'll consider myself outnumbered)
Roy.
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| 7633 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:20am
Subject: Re: Filter Manager
|
| |
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, pfieldho_99 wrote:
> Well the suggestions are coming fast and furious aren't they? No rest
> for the developer!!
>
> The one I have at the moment is a little one (I think). I would like
> to see the tap zones for the filter manager changed from (left to
> right) "done", "apply", "describe" to "apply", "cancel", "describe".
> I don't know how many countless times I have gone in there, picked my
> filter criterion, and then hit "done" on my way out, resulting in no
> action. It seems intuitive to me that the most likely thing, if
> someone goes into filter manager, is to apply it, secondarily
> canceling out because they realize they don't want to be in there.
It is this way for consistency with other similar dialogs that
have been in the system for awhile. (ie: Notice how all the Manager type
dialogs look and work more or less alike?)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7634 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:25am
Subject: Re: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available!
|
| |
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Roy van der Woning wrote:
> I love the new drag & drop, move and promote/demote features in the
> desktop application. Those were the once I was really waiting for
> before I would start using the desktop.
>
> I do have one complaint/wish (depending on how you look at it :)).
> When I drag an item (A) on top of another one (B), A ends up as a
> sibling of B while I would intuitively have expected to get A as a
> child of B. This is how most (if not all) Windows applications work.
> For example, when I drag a folder on top of another in Windows
> Explorer, that folder ends up inside of the other, not on the same
> level.
How would you drop it off as a sibling then?
In the widgets supported by the OS (and the other platform's OSes
too) you can only have one drop point.. so it would have to be child, or
sibling, and not deterministic like Shadow does now. So to be safe I chose
sibling, since it makes rearrangement very easy.
I will be building a new widget that is like the handheld list
window, so we'll get a similar (and better) drag and drop system then..
> You probably designed it this way because it's closest to how the
> handheld application works and because it allows for changing the
> order of items. Still I feel that deviating from an established UI
> paradigm almost always leads to user error and confusion.
Gotcha ;) What does Explorer do when you drag a normal file near
another file? It lets you re-order them. It only drops inside when youre'
dropping on a folder.. another "type" of object entirely. Besides, Windows
Explorer is for Windows users moving files.. you're moving items around in
an outliner.. an entirely different thing :)
Hows about we change it later or.... see how it goes and see how
long till I make a new view widget ;)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7635 |
From: Jeff & Karen Resener <karjar@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:30am
Subject: Re:Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available feedback
|
| |
Looks great as always Jeff, now if there only was that silly little word
wrap toggle under the "V".. [:o)
jeff
Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available
NOTE: This is BETA. It is pretty darned stable, but it may have
niggles.
FEEDBACK Requirement:
If you download this, you must post to this group, or to me, or
to
shadow-test, an opinion or comment..
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| 7636 |
From: Sharon Carleton <scarlet_vx@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:52am
Subject: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 - loss of numbering
|
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Every time I download a new Beta my level numbering
preferences screw up on the few lists I am
synchronizing to the desktop. For example, I start
with a 4-level outline. Able to set the first three
levels in list preferences. However after upgrading
to Beta 5 Level 3 showed no numbering--but the
preference is still there and the number will show up
after I open each entry. Level 4 had to have the
numbering set by item, and most (but not all) of those
entries lost their designation and changed to no
number.
I also ended up with two Shadow conduits, as some
other people did.
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| 7637 |
From: geoffthieme <geoffthieme@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:11am
Subject: Re: Color Coded Tags
|
| |
> As long as you used the same colour for each tag
> in a tag category, you'd be okay. Good?
Yes, associating a color with each tag category. That is exactly
what I'm looking for. Can't wait :)
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, geoffthieme wrote:
>
> > How hard would it be to added color coded tags?
> >
> > Each category of tags would be assigned a color. If red was
assigned
> > to the priority category and a tag called high was in that
category,
> > high would show up in red text. This would make my outline
much more
> > colorful and make it easier to find tasks based in their tag.
>
> I had actually intended originally to have colour-by-tag
(not by
> tag category). Thats not in yet, but it is part of the design,
so wouldn't
> be too bad. As long as you used the same colour for each tag in
a tag
> category, you'd be okay. Good?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your
own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I
mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate
he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7638 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:49am
Subject: Re: Re: Color Coded Tags
|
| |
I agree, that would be sooooo cool to have colors for each tag! And I did check out the "Agendus" desktop and think it is much cooler than Palm Desktop. If I could only set a reminder so many days ahead that would show up every day until, as in Datebk. LOVE the reminders ahead of event...!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: geoffthieme
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:11 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Color Coded Tags
> As long as you used the same colour for each tag
> in a tag category, you'd be okay. Good?
Yes, associating a color with each tag category. That is exactly
what I'm looking for. Can't wait :)
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, geoffthieme wrote:
>
> > How hard would it be to added color coded tags?
> >
> > Each category of tags would be assigned a color. If red was
assigned
> > to the priority category and a tag called high was in that
category,
> > high would show up in red text. This would make my outline
much more
> > colorful and make it easier to find tasks based in their tag.
>
> I had actually intended originally to have colour-by-tag
(not by
> tag category). Thats not in yet, but it is part of the design,
so wouldn't
> be too bad. As long as you used the same colour for each tag in
a tag
> category, you'd be okay. Good?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your
own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I
mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate
he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7639 |
From: Justin Nelson <justinn@e...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:38am
Subject: Re:Shadow 2.6 Beta 5
|
| |
Apart from the little niggles others have already reported (eg: the <->
cursor "sticking" and the potential for drag and drop confusion - on which
point I agree with the "wait and see" proposal by Jeff), the Beta 5 works
just fine for me - well done, Jeff: the desktop is MUCH more useful now!!
Justin Nelson (using a Palm M505 with OS v.4.1, JackFlash, DateBk5,
ShadowPlan and a LOAD of system extension hacks)
|
| 7640 |
From: Robert Winia <rwinia@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 10:39am
Subject: Change in filter manager button layout
|
| |
Hello Jeff,
I totally, absolutely, outrageously agree with the
point below from Paul.
I think we get in the habit that executing something
is bottom left in the layout.
I thought about asking for it but now that Paul has
done it I can only addd my very strong vote to this
chapter.
Robert
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:36:41 -0000
From: "pfieldho_99" <pfieldho_99@y...>
Subject: Filter Manager
Jeff,
Well the suggestions are coming fast and furious
aren't they? No rest
for the developer!!
The one I have at the moment is a little one (I
think). I would like
to see the tap zones for the filter manager changed
from (left to
right) "done", "apply", "describe" to "apply",
"cancel", "describe".
I don't know how many countless times I have gone in
there, picked my
filter criterion, and then hit "done" on my way out,
resulting in no
action. It seems intuitive to me that the most likely
thing, if
someone goes into filter manager, is to apply it,
secondarily
canceling out because they realize they don't want to
be in there.
Paul
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| 7641 |
From: Nancy Barnet <nbarnet@a...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:42am
Subject: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
|
| |
A couple of things on the latest beta on the handheld (m505 with OS 4.0)
Cosmetic — my longest titles (on open lists) are overlapped by the
copy/filter/view buttons at the right end.
Tasklist — If I change a list from any other type to tasklist, the
progress bars on those parents with children initially show 100%
complete instead of 0% or partially complete. Checking and unchecking an
item will reset the progress bar to the proper level.
The conduit works great for me, and the desktop is getting there! I had
avoided syncing anything to the desktop prior to the most recent betas
because the process would usually hang my hotsyncs. Seems to be working
flawlessly for me now. And I love being able to easily run Shadow from
my card.
Thanks, Jeff!
Nancy
|
| 7642 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:15pm
Subject: Re: Re:Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 (Windows) Available feedback
|
| |
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Jeff & Karen Resener wrote:
> Looks great as always Jeff, now if there only was that silly little word
> wrap toggle under the "V".. [:o)
I promise, once this goes out public, you bug me and it'll get
added within a day or two to 2.6.x :) It keeps falling off, but I'll get
it inthere, promise. You just bug me in a few days :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7643 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:30pm
Subject: Re: Shadow 2.6 Beta 5 - loss of numbering
|
| |
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Sharon Carleton wrote:
> Every time I download a new Beta my level numbering preferences screw
> up on the few lists I am synchronizing to the desktop. For example, I
> start with a 4-level outline. Able to set the first three levels in
> list preferences. However after upgrading to Beta 5 Level 3 showed no
> numbering--but the preference is still there and the number will show
> up after I open each entry. Level 4 had to have the numbering set by
> item, and most (but not all) of those entries lost their designation
> and changed to no number.
The conduit sync autonumbers fine; it was discovered days ago that
the handheld application could remove auto-numbers beyond level 3 by using
List Preferences, and this is fixed in the handheld application contained
in beta 5. The conduit hasn't ever lost auto-numbers, so somethign funny
must be up. New items from the desktop may not have autonumbering yet
applied, as the desktop application doesn't yet understand numbering, but
the conduit does so it syncs them fine and never loses any. Soon the
desktop will understand them too. So right now you should only see items
missing autonumbering that come new from the desktop...
> I also ended up with two Shadow conduits, as some other people did.
That is normal for this release; the old one goes away once you've
synced and rebooted.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7644 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:33pm
Subject: Re: Re:Shadow 2.6 Beta 5
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Justin Nelson wrote:
> Apart from the little niggles others have already reported (eg: the
> <-> cursor "sticking" and the potential for drag and drop confusion -
> on which point I agree with the "wait and see" proposal by Jeff), the
> Beta 5 works just fine for me - well done, Jeff: the desktop is MUCH
> more useful now!!
Sweet, thanks for the feedback. I just don't "rock the boat" when
I want to get something good and useful out to everyone. Once this goes
public (I guess early next week, monday or tuesday?) we can get to
breaking things and having a little fun with it :P
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7645 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 0:36pm
Subject: Re: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Nancy Barnet wrote:
> A couple of things on the latest beta on the handheld (m505 with OS 4.0)
>
> Cosmetic — my longest titles (on open lists) are overlapped by the
> copy/filter/view buttons at the right end.
Yeah; I've thought about truncating the filename in the list title
to avoid this, but letting the buttons show-over seems to work well enough
and let you see some of the lisrt name underneath. *shrug* :)
> Tasklist — If I change a list from any other type to tasklist, the
> progress bars on those parents with children initially show 100%
> complete instead of 0% or partially complete. Checking and unchecking an
> item will reset the progress bar to the proper level.
I'll jot that down for a fix.
> The conduit works great for me, and the desktop is getting there! I
> had avoided syncing anything to the desktop prior to the most recent
> betas because the process would usually hang my hotsyncs. Seems to be
> working flawlessly for me now. And I love being able to easily run
> Shadow from my card.
Great :) Running from card is handy.. I think as time goes on,
applications get larger, especially with super powered OS5 machines
coming. So we need every drop of memory we can spare :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7646 |
From: jledesma28 <jledesma28@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: Re: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
|
| |
Jeff, the delete key on the desktop should be easier to hit. It would
be nice, if one would right click on a children and be able to delete
it immediately
fyi
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Nancy Barnet wrote:
>
> > A couple of things on the latest beta on the handheld (m505 with
OS 4.0)
> >
> > Cosmetic — my longest titles (on open lists) are overlapped by the
> > copy/filter/view buttons at the right end.
>
> Yeah; I've thought about truncating the filename in the list
title
> to avoid this, but letting the buttons show-over seems to work well
enough
> and let you see some of the lisrt name underneath. *shrug* :)
>
> > Tasklist — If I change a list from any other type to tasklist, the
> > progress bars on those parents with children initially show 100%
> > complete instead of 0% or partially complete. Checking and
unchecking an
> > item will reset the progress bar to the proper level.
>
> I'll jot that down for a fix.
>
> > The conduit works great for me, and the desktop is getting there!
I
> > had avoided syncing anything to the desktop prior to the most
recent
> > betas because the process would usually hang my hotsyncs. Seems
to be
> > working flawlessly for me now. And I love being able to easily run
> > Shadow from my card.
>
> Great :) Running from card is handy.. I think as time goes on,
> applications get larger, especially with super powered OS5 machines
> coming. So we need every drop of memory we can spare :)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7647 |
From: Peggy Darling <peggy_darling@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:40pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 682
|
| |
I might be wrong, because I just got my new clie
nr70u/v and I am a little overwhelmed with re-setting
all my categories of DB5, Todo+, Address (which did
not carryover in the upgrade!! Yikes!) Neither did my
shadow categories, btw. :(
So, I was very happily surprised to see that colbg
with tiny resolution on my clie is showing up... I
think somebody else mentioned they were have crash
problems with that-- No crashes yet for me with the
beta b -- Perhaps it is because I do not understand
the high resolution, but I think I have it going
because the fonts are really tiny and I can see the
whole page of notes on one screen! That is, with both
my contacts *AND* my reading glasses, LOL :^)
Another thing I am as pleased as punch about is the
fact that all my old files that kept crasing my prism
before the new conduit came out will now operate fine
when I drag them from their resting place on my hard
drive to the active shadow 160 folder. How
wonderful!!!
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| 7648 |
From: Herb <hherbzilla@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:45pm
Subject: Help Exporting DOC - where does it go?
|
| |
First, let me say that this is a great product! I evaluated several
other alternatives but found this to be the most robust. I've only
been using it for a few days but am already very pleased and see how
it will be a productivity-booster.
My question is about exporting to DOC format. After I make the
selections (Transfer/Export to DOC/select a format and click on OK)
and HotSync, what should happen? I can't find the DOC file anywhere
on my laptop.
I've seen some discussion here on the topic, but couldn't really make
sense out of it. I'm assuming I don't have to purchase another
product (e.g., WordSmith) to make this work. Thanks in advance for
your help!
|
| 7649 |
From: pfieldho_99 <pfieldho_99@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:15pm
Subject: Re: Filter Manager
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, pfieldho_99 wrote:
>
> > Well the suggestions are coming fast and furious aren't they? No
rest
> > for the developer!!
> >
> > The one I have at the moment is a little one (I think). I would
like
> > to see the tap zones for the filter manager changed from (left to
> > right) "done", "apply", "describe"
to "apply", "cancel", "describe".
> > I don't know how many countless times I have gone in there,
picked my
> > filter criterion, and then hit "done" on my way out, resulting in
no
> > action. It seems intuitive to me that the most likely thing, if
> > someone goes into filter manager, is to apply it, secondarily
> > canceling out because they realize they don't want to be in there.
>
> It is this way for consistency with other similar dialogs that
> have been in the system for awhile. (ie: Notice how all the Manager
type
> dialogs look and work more or less alike?)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
Well, if no one else has this problem, maybe its best that I
reprogram my brain rather than you reprogram ShadowPlan.
Paul
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| 7650 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, jledesma28 wrote:
> Jeff, the delete key on the desktop should be easier to hit. It would
> be nice, if one would right click on a children and be able to delete
> it immediately
OKay. We'll worry about refinements in a few days after 2.6 goes
out the door. You're wanting a right-click context menu or somesuch?
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7651 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:20pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 682
|
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Peggy Darling wrote:
> I might be wrong, because I just got my new clie nr70u/v and I am a
> little overwhelmed with re-setting all my categories of DB5, Todo+,
> Address (which did not carryover in the upgrade!! Yikes!) Neither did
> my shadow categories, btw. :(
Categories are "iffy" in Hotsync Manager; for Shadow, if you've
got your old unit and a file manager app, you can beam over yuor
"ShadCat" file (hidden) to get your categories back.
> So, I was very happily surprised to see that colbg with tiny
> resolution on my clie is showing up... I think somebody else mentioned
> they were have crash problems with that-- No crashes yet for me with
The col-bg crash stopped happening a long long time ago :) (We
figured out it was high res assist crashing and not Shadow, and so when
high res assist is active, col-bg is suppressed. So when in low res or
high res, you get col-bg but not in high res assist mode. Sony's bad)
> tiny and I can see the whole page of notes on one screen! That is,
> with both my contacts *AND* my reading glasses, LOL :^)
You can get other font choices :) (ie: You set to use the Palm
"Large" font which looks pretty nice on the highres mode, or you can use
Font Bucket or FontHack to get alternate font sizes and shapes)
> Another thing I am as pleased as punch about is the fact that all my
> old files that kept crasing my prism before the new conduit came out
> will now operate fine when I drag them from their resting place on my
> hard drive to the active shadow 160 folder. How wonderful!!!
Whew!
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7652 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:25pm
Subject: Re: Help Exporting DOC - where does it go?
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Herb wrote:
> First, let me say that this is a great product! I evaluated several
> other alternatives but found this to be the most robust. I've only
> been using it for a few days but am already very pleased and see how
> it will be a productivity-booster.
Be sure to take a peek in shadow-tips; some good ideas people have
posted there!
> My question is about exporting to DOC format. After I make the
> selections (Transfer/Export to DOC/select a format and click on OK)
> and HotSync, what should happen? I can't find the DOC file anywhere on
> my laptop.
It is a Palm DOC file, not a MSWord DOC file :) If you've got a
DOC reader (like WordSmith, Qvadis, PalmDOC, HandStory, you name it,
theres hundreds) you'll be able to see and use i. It'll be in the "normal
places" for DOCs on your desktop, and if you want to get an MSWord DOC out
of it, you'll need something like WordSmith or Docs2Go or the like, I
imagine. Maybe isilo or the like can do that as well. I don't use DOCs
myself, so I cannot advise overly well.
> I've seen some discussion here on the topic, but couldn't really make
> sense out of it. I'm assuming I don't have to purchase another product
> (e.g., WordSmith) to make this work. Thanks in advance for your help!
It works fine; it writes to a Palm DOC file for you to use with
DOC readers :)
There are some tools (free and shareware) which can read DOC files
right on the PC. ie: When Hotsync Manager syncs, it'll back up the DOC
file to a "PDB" (Palm Database file) on the PC. You generally dont' touch
these yourself, but there are some applications which can read/write Palm
DOC files contained in PDBs.
Hopefully someone who does this can shed some light on good 3rd
party tools.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7653 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: Filter Manager
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, pfieldho_99 wrote:
> Well, if no one else has this problem, maybe its best that I
> reprogram my brain rather than you reprogram ShadowPlan.
I had the issue for awhile too, as older Shadows had an OK on the
left button, and it now moved over. So it took me a few taps before I got
used to it. Sorry about that.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7654 |
From: Herb <hherbzilla@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:24pm
Subject: Re: Help Exporting DOC - where does it go?
|
| |
OK, thanks... that helps a lot! I guess I'll go find myself a DOC
reader. ;)
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Herb wrote:
>
> > First, let me say that this is a great product! I evaluated
several
> > other alternatives but found this to be the most robust. I've only
> > been using it for a few days but am already very pleased and see
how
> > it will be a productivity-booster.
>
> Be sure to take a peek in shadow-tips; some good ideas people
have
> posted there!
>
> > My question is about exporting to DOC format. After I make the
> > selections (Transfer/Export to DOC/select a format and click on
OK)
> > and HotSync, what should happen? I can't find the DOC file
anywhere on
> > my laptop.
>
> It is a Palm DOC file, not a MSWord DOC file :) If you've got
a
> DOC reader (like WordSmith, Qvadis, PalmDOC, HandStory, you name it,
> theres hundreds) you'll be able to see and use i. It'll be in
the "normal
> places" for DOCs on your desktop, and if you want to get an MSWord
DOC out
> of it, you'll need something like WordSmith or Docs2Go or the like,
I
> imagine. Maybe isilo or the like can do that as well. I don't use
DOCs
> myself, so I cannot advise overly well.
>
> > I've seen some discussion here on the topic, but couldn't really
make
> > sense out of it. I'm assuming I don't have to purchase another
product
> > (e.g., WordSmith) to make this work. Thanks in advance for your
help!
>
> It works fine; it writes to a Palm DOC file for you to use
with
> DOC readers :)
>
> There are some tools (free and shareware) which can read DOC
files
> right on the PC. ie: When Hotsync Manager syncs, it'll back up the
DOC
> file to a "PDB" (Palm Database file) on the PC. You generally dont'
touch
> these yourself, but there are some applications which can
read/write Palm
> DOC files contained in PDBs.
>
> Hopefully someone who does this can shed some light on good
3rd
> party tools.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7655 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:42pm
Subject: Re: Re: Help Exporting DOC - where does it go?
|
| |
Herb, check out Palm Reader Pro and HandStory, as I have and use both, with HandStory allowing you more options for other uses as well. The little bit extra for a good reader is worth it for the long run!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: Herb
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Help Exporting DOC - where does it go?
OK, thanks... that helps a lot! I guess I'll go find myself a DOC
reader. ;)
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Herb wrote:
>
> > First, let me say that this is a great product! I evaluated
several
> > other alternatives but found this to be the most robust. I've only
> > been using it for a few days but am already very pleased and see
how
> > it will be a productivity-booster.
>
> Be sure to take a peek in shadow-tips; some good ideas people
have
> posted there!
>
> > My question is about exporting to DOC format. After I make the
> > selections (Transfer/Export to DOC/select a format and click on
OK)
> > and HotSync, what should happen? I can't find the DOC file
anywhere on
> > my laptop.
>
> It is a Palm DOC file, not a MSWord DOC file :) If you've got
a
> DOC reader (like WordSmith, Qvadis, PalmDOC, HandStory, you name it,
> theres hundreds) you'll be able to see and use i. It'll be in
the "normal
> places" for DOCs on your desktop, and if you want to get an MSWord
DOC out
> of it, you'll need something like WordSmith or Docs2Go or the like,
I
> imagine. Maybe isilo or the like can do that as well. I don't use
DOCs
> myself, so I cannot advise overly well.
>
> > I've seen some discussion here on the topic, but couldn't really
make
> > sense out of it. I'm assuming I don't have to purchase another
product
> > (e.g., WordSmith) to make this work. Thanks in advance for your
help!
>
> It works fine; it writes to a Palm DOC file for you to use
with
> DOC readers :)
>
> There are some tools (free and shareware) which can read DOC
files
> right on the PC. ie: When Hotsync Manager syncs, it'll back up the
DOC
> file to a "PDB" (Palm Database file) on the PC. You generally dont'
touch
> these yourself, but there are some applications which can
read/write Palm
> DOC files contained in PDBs.
>
> Hopefully someone who does this can shed some light on good
3rd
> party tools.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7656 |
From: victorkr <victor.krongold@c...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:52pm
Subject: Crash solved
|
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Jeff,
Crash is solved regarding new items in an empty list in the DT.
The behaviour of only checked items or only finish date set items in
the DT continues.
After syncing the view in the HH showed the same pattern as I
reported.
BR
Victor
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| 7657 |
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:06pm
Subject: Conduit suggestion
|
| |
As an ex-Psion user, something I miss, is the ability to transfer the
clipboard between had-held and Windows. With the Psion sync software
you were able to Cut something from Windows, and then Paste it into
the hand-held. You could also do the reverse.
Very handy - never seen its equivalent on the Palm... unless you guys
know different.
A feature for the 2.7 conduit perhaps?
Graham
|
| 7658 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Conduit suggestion
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, gf_gollum wrote:
> As an ex-Psion user, something I miss, is the ability to transfer the
> clipboard between had-held and Windows. With the Psion sync software
> you were able to Cut something from Windows, and then Paste it into
> the hand-held. You could also do the reverse.
>
> Very handy - never seen its equivalent on the Palm... unless you guys
> know different.
>
> A feature for the 2.7 conduit perhaps?
Was the Psion connected to the PC in real time? (ie: hitting copy
on the Psion, and Paste on the PC.. that suggests the clipboard was
available *immediately* on the other side). Or did you hit Sync of some
sort in between, so its really a much delayed sort of clipboard?
That sort of thing is possible, but I would imagine it would be
way way down the priority list for most people.
Sounds like it would be easily simulated though..
1) Keep a Shadow file called "Clipboard".
2) In Shadow, "cut" a few items (multiclip, whatever), and then do
a "Send to file" from the clipboard, sending the contents to your file
called Clipboard
3) Sync
4) On the desktop, open your clipboard file, Cut the items
5) Paste them into the docuemnt in question
Of course, Shadow Desktop 1.2.5 doesn't have a item clipboard yet,
but it will soon.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 7659 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:59pm
Subject: Re: Crash solved
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, victorkr wrote:
> The behaviour of only checked items or only finish date set items in
> the DT continues.
Hmm?
> After syncing the view in the HH showed the same pattern as I
> reported.
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7660 |
From: gf_gollum <gf_gollum@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:23pm
Subject: Re: Conduit suggestion
|
| |
> Was the Psion connected to the PC in real time? (ie: hitting
copy
> on the Psion, and Paste on the PC..
Yes it was.. very handy too on occasion.
I agree its not a huge priority.. and someone may have an equivalent
(probably a "hack"!).. just a thought for the possible future.
Regards
Graham
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| 7661 |
From: jledesma28 <jledesma28@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:02pm
Subject: Idea for the desktop
|
| |
Jeff, I just about this when I went to try it and I couldn't:
On a list it would be nice you can copy all the items, as a select
all and then one is able to paste it onto a memo, thus having a an
outline type of look in the memo, just an idea...
|
| 7662 |
From: jledesma28 <jledesma28@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:19pm
Subject: Idea #2 for Handheld and Desktop
|
| |
Jeff, it would super, super cool if Shadow can designate a font
style and/or size for the children it creates for list. So it can
look something like this:
List Fonts
Level 1: Arial Bold 22
Level 2: Times New Roman 14
Level 3: Palm OS 8
Just an idea to make this app even better and more flexible.
my two cents
George
|
| 7663 |
From: pfieldho_99 <pfieldho_99@y...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:55pm
Subject: Re: Conduit suggestion
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "gf_gollum" <gf_gollum@y...> wrote:
> > Was the Psion connected to the PC in real time? (ie: hitting
> copy
> > on the Psion, and Paste on the PC..
> Yes it was.. very handy too on occasion.
>
> I agree its not a huge priority.. and someone may have an
equivalent
> (probably a "hack"!).. just a thought for the possible future.
> Regards
> Graham
Interesting idea. I haven't used it but there does seem (after doing
a search) to be a program and a hack that does something like you ask:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~pebbles/clipboard/
Paul
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| 7664 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Re: Conduit suggestion
|
| |
Before you get to excited, on the main page it says it does not support USB
for Palm, only serial and IR. But this is interesting stuff. Thanks.
"pfieldho_99"
<pfieldho_99@ To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
yahoo.com> cc:
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Conduit suggestion
10/25/2002
02:55 PM
Please
respond to
shadow-discus
s
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "gf_gollum" <gf_gollum@y...> wrote:
> > Was the Psion connected to the PC in real time? (ie: hitting
> copy
> > on the Psion, and Paste on the PC..
> Yes it was.. very handy too on occasion.
>
> I agree its not a huge priority.. and someone may have an
equivalent
> (probably a "hack"!).. just a thought for the possible future.
> Regards
> Graham
Interesting idea. I haven't used it but there does seem (after doing
a search) to be a program and a hack that does something like you ask:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~pebbles/clipboard/
Paul
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| 7665 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:17pm
Subject: Re: Idea for the desktop
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, jledesma28 wrote:
> Jeff, I just about this when I went to try it and I couldn't:
>
> On a list it would be nice you can copy all the items, as a select
> all and then one is able to paste it onto a memo, thus having a an
> outline type of look in the memo, just an idea...
What do you mean "memo"?
"Save-as" txt?
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7666 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:18pm
Subject: Re: Idea #2 for Handheld and Desktop
|
| |
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, jledesma28 wrote:
> Jeff, it would super, super cool if Shadow can designate a font
> style and/or size for the children it creates for list. So it can
> look something like this:
We'll see; I intend on adding some font supoprt in a bit so peopel
can adjust the sizing and stuff to make it easier on the ol' eyes. Doing
it by level.. depends how the OS feels about that (and the other
platforms). I'm hoping to redo the whole left panel widget to be
Shadow-like, so that will be lots of work.. but hopefully allow this sort
of magic..
jeff
>
> List Fonts
> Level 1: Arial Bold 22
> Level 2: Times New Roman 14
> Level 3: Palm OS 8
>
>
> Just an idea to make this app even better and more flexible.
>
> my two cents
>
> George
>
>
>
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sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 7667 |
From: Tom & Christiane Moughan <moughan@e...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
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| |
----- Original Message -----
From: "jledesma28" <jledesma28@y...>
To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:36 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Feedback on 2.6 Beta 5
Jeff, the delete key on the desktop should be easier to hit. It would
be nice, if one would right click on a children and be able to delete
it immediately
=============================================
enabling the delete KEY on the keyboard would really help all of us mouse
challenged people, since the up and down arrow key works fine for navigation on
the desktop
>> Tom
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| 7668 |
From: kasmesa <samir.kasme@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:39pm
Subject: Re: 2 or 3 little things
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> > a shortcut on "Zoom inside level" would be great. It can only be
> > reached by Menu (also the 'v' button, but that's impractical
> > somehow... too many things in there). what about "/ Z" which is
not
> > used yet?
>
> We'd need a shortcut for zoom out, too :/
Not so much with the current behaviour, ie unzoom automatically
before exiting. Usually you zoom into a sublevel cause you are only
interested in that part of your file for the time being, and
presumably for the whole "Shadow session". Next time it can be
different. So the "unzoom on exit" is a good thing.
> > Also a shortcut for List Preferences would be very useful, this
> > command is actually used quite frequently (at least I do)
>
> What do you need to go there often for?
>
Well... change auto-numbering, or enabling titlebar, enabling sync
(hotsync takes too long if you enable all lists to get synced by
default), or sometime just checking the custom list options (granted,
this one is now easily done with the view manager)
> > reached: a good way would be a HW button within Shadow that would
> > open a specific list:
[...]
> Its possible; Recent Files is pretty good at its job. Taking
over
> hardkeys is amazingly uncool (since maybe you want to go the
Datebook ;),
> even when you set up a pref to enable it or disable it. You could
use any
> of a number of Megawiki type hacks to jump to a specific file. I
coudl
> build something in, to make table of contents type files more
useful, but
> I'm not sure hardkeys aer the way to go?
>
I agree that taking over hardkey is pretty heavy, but a Megawiki-type
hack is only half as useful: you would have to put hyperlinks to
your "Inbox" list all over the place, wouldn't you? The idea is to be
able to jump to a specific file from _anywhere_ within SP
>
> Gotta run.. sorry for the quick reply!
>
you mean thank _you_ for such quick replies, your reactiveness is
amazing. Better quick and short replies than waiting for weeks for a
long reply. It's like your releases, better quick releases with fewer
changes than big releases once a year ;-)
Cheers
Samir
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| 7669 |
From: kasmesa <samir.kasme@s...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:40pm
Subject: Re: 2 or 3 little things
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> > a shortcut on "Zoom inside level" would be great. It can only be
> > reached by Menu (also the 'v' button, but that's impractical
> > somehow... too many thin | |
