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| 6501 |
From: yoohoocity <alsiders203@a...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:37am
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> your program by hitting the lower left corner of the screen, on the
> small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the Menu area
on
> my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
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| 6502 |
From: gsourire <gsourire@y...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 1:09pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe: Problem solved
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The problem was caused by inappropriate data (maybe: too long fields)
in the standard Adress application, which I'm using as a database
with non-standard fields. I rearranged the data and everything is
fine now. What relationship there is with Shadow ,only Jeff could
possibly know.
As for the exception when tapping the "adjust contrast" spot, it's
just a matter of adjusting to it; minor inconvenience.
Let's get back to work.
Regards
Gilles
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| 6503 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 3:12pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, gsourire wrote:
> Hi, Jeff
> No I didn't try 2.2.1. But I will, if it can help.
> I did my hard reset pressing the on/off button and it did ask me if I
> wanted to clear memory. But anyway I try again and get back to you.
If it asks you and you do the memory clear, then *everything* is
gone, for sure. If stuff didnt' vanish, then it didnt' go through.
> Here is what I just found. I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> your program by hitting the lower left corner of the screen, on the
> small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the Menu area on
> my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines. Wish I could disable it as I
> don't need it. But looks like a bug to me (it also has the size of a
> bug!?!- joking).
>
> Thanks for your input. I get back to you
I think one of the alphas had this problem; go to the Help menu,
and hit About, and see what version it says in the corner.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6504 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 3:12pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, yoohoocity wrote:
> I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> > your program by hitting the lower left corner of the screen, on the
> > small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the Menu area
> on
> > my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
>
> My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
Eep! Which Shadow version? Which OS version?
Perhaps theres a visor issue here. HS did some sneaky stuff with
the OS that sometimes shows up.. but I'm surprised this got through!
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6505 |
From: sdm42us <smasters@a...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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Jeff,
Could this have something to do with your Hi-res support? The reason
I ask is that on my Clie T415 SP 2.5, when I click on the contrast
button in SP I get the nice knurled slider, but no indication of the
contrast bar, just the "i" icon at either end. In all other apps a
low-res contrast bar will show up. On the hi-res version of the
original launcher, a hi-res contrast bar is displayed. The problem in
the alpha was the slider indicator being replaced by an "i". Hope
this helps.
Scott
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, yoohoocity wrote:
>
> > I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> > > your program by hitting the lower left corner of the screen, on
the
> > > small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the Menu
area
> > on
> > > my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
> >
> > My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
>
> Eep! Which Shadow version? Which OS version?
>
> Perhaps theres a visor issue here. HS did some sneaky stuff
with
> the OS that sometimes shows up.. but I'm surprised this got through!
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6506 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 5:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, sdm42us wrote:
> Could this have something to do with your Hi-res support? The reason I
> ask is that on my Clie T415 SP 2.5, when I click on the contrast
> button in SP I get the nice knurled slider, but no indication of the
> contrast bar, just the "i" icon at either end. In all other apps a
> low-res contrast bar will show up. On the hi-res version of the
> original launcher, a hi-res contrast bar is displayed. The problem in
> the alpha was the slider indicator being replaced by an "i". Hope this
> helps.
Whackystrange. I shall have to investigate. The "(i)" is an icon
of mine, with a certain resource ID. Obviously the OS uses that resource
ID for the contrast and brightness windows on some units. It woudl be
really nice if there was a document somewhere listing off what resource
numbers not to use :/ (and if it exists, I've overlooked it. Regardless,
the resource number for "(i)" icon of mine is smack in the middle of a
useful range...)
*sigh* :)
It never ends... :)
jeff
>
> Scott
>
>
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, yoohoocity wrote:
> >
> > > I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> > > > your program by hitting the lower left corner of the screen, on
> the
> > > > small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the Menu
> area
> > > on
> > > > my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
> > >
> > > My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
> >
> > Eep! Which Shadow version? Which OS version?
> >
> > Perhaps theres a visor issue here. HS did some sneaky stuff
> with
> > the OS that sometimes shows up.. but I'm surprised this got through!
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
> micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
> is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6507 |
From: Jon Hind <lists@j...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 5:28pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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I started getting this with a visor 3.1h - ad it went away when I
defied a application (datebk5) as the todo application. Previously it
was blank.
--
Jon Hind, jon@j... on 2002/07/25
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:44:36 -0000, gsourire wrote:
>I have tried a number of things (with my limited knowledge of Palm
>3.1 OS), but I always get a Fatal Exception as soon as I hit Add in
>the Link Manager. Also, recently, but rarely I got this fatal
>exception when I simply hit the Menu area while in Shadow (never
>happened elsewhere).
>
>I did a cold reset, erased by hand all DA, and only loaded
>Shadow.prc. Same result.
>
>Other features seam to work fine. I built several lists on my laptop
> and transfered them without problem. I worked on them on the Visor,
> no problem. Version 2.5.0.
>
>I'm now suspecting Handspring peculiarities, since, for example, I
>have found earlier that Infrared extensions are not the same on Palm
> as on Handspring.
>
>A hard reset does not remove everything (to my surprise), so I had
>to delete manually megaWiki and friends. Warm reset afterwards, of
>course. Are there any secret locations I should look at?
>
>Any suggestion?
>
>Not many people seem to use Visor.
>
>Regards
>
>Gilles
>
>
>
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| 6508 |
From: Cindy Greene <cindyg@c...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:50pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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Gilles,
I had a recurrent Fatal Exception / Fatal Error also on my Visor Deluxe
when using Shadow with version 2.0. Jeff could not duplicate it, and for
me it seemed to occur whenever using "show unchecked items" in the
filters, on any list at all.
Thankfully it went away when I installed 2.0.9 - I am now using 2.5.0
and have had no further problems.
You might try reinstalling Shadow if you have not. I believe there was
one other person who mentioned a similar problem on their Visor.
Very frustrating, I know.
Cindy
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| 6509 |
From: yoohoocity <alsiders203@a...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, sdm42us wrote:
>
> > Could this have something to do with your Hi-res support? The
reason I
> > ask is that on my Clie T415 SP 2.5, when I click on the contrast
> > button in SP I get the nice knurled slider, but no indication of
the
> > contrast bar, just the "i" icon at either end. In all other apps a
> > low-res contrast bar will show up. On the hi-res version of the
> > original launcher, a hi-res contrast bar is displayed. The
problem in
> > the alpha was the slider indicator being replaced by an "i". Hope
this
> > helps.
>
> Whackystrange. I shall have to investigate. The "(i)" is an
icon
> of mine, with a certain resource ID. Obviously the OS uses that
resource
> ID for the contrast and brightness windows on some units. It woudl
be
> really nice if there was a document somewhere listing off what
resource
> numbers not to use :/ (and if it exists, I've overlooked it.
Regardless,
> the resource number for "(i)" icon of mine is smack in the middle
of a
> useful range...)
>
> *sigh* :)
>
> It never ends... :)
>
> jeff
>
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > --- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, yoohoocity wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> > > > > your program by hitting the lower left corner of the
screen, on
> > the
> > > > > small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the
Menu
> > area
> > > > on
> > > > > my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
> > > >
> > > > My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
> > >
> > > Eep! Which Shadow version? Which OS version?
Version 2.5.0
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| 6510 |
From: christonna <christonna@f...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:08pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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I am able to create a Fatal Exception at will by pushing the page
down button on my Visor Platinum while I'm on the main screen. SP2.5
installed and still happens with all hacks disabled. Also, doesn't
matter how SP is opened or how long I've been working in it.
Haven't tried yet with all Hacks and DAs deleted, but I will give
that a shot this evening.
Hope we can get this knocked out soon!
Christonna
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| 6511 |
From: yoohoocity <alsiders203@a...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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> > > --- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> I can create a Fatal Exception at will in
> your program by hitting the lower left corner of the
> screen, on the
> small spot to adjust contrast . This spot is within the
> Menu area on my Visor. Perhaps not on other machines.
My Visor Deluxe does the same even with all hacks deactivated.
> Eep! Which Shadow version? Which OS version?
Sorry (cat ran across keyboard). Shadow version 2.5.0 and OS 3.1H3.
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| 6512 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 10:29pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, christonna wrote:
> I am able to create a Fatal Exception at will by pushing the page
> down button on my Visor Platinum while I'm on the main screen. SP2.5
> installed and still happens with all hacks disabled. Also, doesn't
> matter how SP is opened or how long I've been working in it.
>
> Haven't tried yet with all Hacks and DAs deleted, but I will give
> that a shot this evening.
>
> Hope we can get this knocked out soon!
Anyone else (non visor?)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6513 |
From: Earthlink <kevin@g...>
Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 10:39pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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sony clie here, and no problem with same action.
kevin
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, christonna wrote:
> I am able to create a Fatal Exception at will by pushing the page
> down button on my Visor Platinum while I'm on the main screen. SP2.5
> installed and still happens with all hacks disabled. Also, doesn't
> matter how SP is opened or how long I've been working in it.
>
> Haven't tried yet with all Hacks and DAs deleted, but I will give
> that a shot this evening.
>
> Hope we can get this knocked out soon!
Anyone else (non visor?)
jeff
--
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
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| 6514 |
From: paulbcf <ext555@p...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:50am
Subject: Re: Fatal exception with Handspring Visor DeLuxe
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, christonna wrote:
>
> > I am able to create a Fatal Exception at will by pushing the
page
> > down button on my Visor Platinum while I'm on the main screen.
SP2.5
> > installed and still happens with all hacks disabled. Also,
doesn't
> > matter how SP is opened or how long I've been working in it.
> >
> > Haven't tried yet with all Hacks and DAs deleted, but I will
give
> > that a shot this evening.
> >
> > Hope we can get this knocked out soon!
>
> Anyone else (non visor?)
>
> jeff
--unable to reproduce this on Sony Clie s360 Shadow 2.5
(7-8) hacks enabled
Paul
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6515 |
From: mcmug1997 <Alex.Fung.Ho-san+yahoo@g...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 9:06am
Subject: Re: Linking to Franklin Covey PIM
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> Franklin Covery uses proprietary databaes and won't publish their
> specs. As such, no program can work with FC's stuff without reverse
> engineering it,
you are right. I've been using FPS/Windows. It is buggy enough. The
FPS/Palm is more horrible. I have to prioritize daily on PC and sync
the result to Palm. At home, I can't sync any more because syncing
FPS on two PCs will make it crazy (duplicate records all over).
Even the FPS Application Schedular can only view the PTDL (the FPS to
do list). They cannot "remotely" check items, or jump to particular
items (not even jump to items of the correct day!).
The only good thing about PTDL is the treatment of days. You can
assign tasks to a future day, and it won't appear until that day. I
haven't seen this simple but important feature in other todo lists.
Everybody seems to think that todos are timeless. I am new to SP, but
I think it can be done with SP filters.
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| 6516 |
From: Malcolm Campbell <malcolmc@s...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 10:31am
Subject: Re: Re: Linking to Franklin Covey PIM
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> The only good thing about PTDL is the treatment of days. You can
> assign tasks to a future day, and it won't appear until that day. I
> haven't seen this simple but important feature in other todo lists.
> Everybody seems to think that todos are timeless. I am new to SP, but
> I think it can be done with SP filters.
You can do this easily with DateBk5 (or 4, or 3), or any number of other
ToDO programs. Using the FC method with Shadowplan + DateBk5 works pretty
well - use Shadowplan for your Master Lists.. In fact, everything but daily
ToDos. Then link to DateBk5
Works a charm, and doesnt crash all the time :)
--- Malcolm
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| 6517 |
From: bryanhutcheson <bryan.hutcheson@t...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:30am
Subject: Priority display on Checklist items
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I've noticed something on 2.5 which I can't recall being there
before. It may have been and I haven't noticed - I've started to use
Shadow a bit more heavily in recent weeks.
For a tasklist item the priority is displayed to the left of the
item, but when the item is changed to a checklist the priority is not
displayed. I find this a little frustrating, since I need to change
items to tasks to see the priority when they don't need to be taks -
just Checklists.
Is there a way round this? , is this a bug?, is there an option I
haven't set? Do others have this problem?
Bryan
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| 6518 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:27pm
Subject: Re: Priority display on Checklist items
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From the Reference Guide:
"List Type
Each Shadow list has a view type associated to it. Don't worry, you can
change the type anytime you like. The type is just a general description
which tells Shadow how to display the information you're storing in it. A
file can be a Checklist (with checkboxes), a Memo (without any
decorations), a Tasklist (with Priorities, Checkboxes, Progress Bars,
Dates, etc), a Flat list (no indentation, but with a todo link checkbox for
faster todo linking), or a Custom view (where you can turn on or off any
feature you like!) You can pull up List Preferences from within a list and
change its view type at any time. You never lose any information .. you
just change how it is presented."
If you like the Tasklist view use it. If you want Checklist view with just
the Priority added, make a custom item type or custom view. 2.5 is
extremely flexible in its presentation. Hope this helps.
Scott
"bryanhutcheson"
<bryan.hutcheson@t... To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
rld.co.uk> cc:
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Priority display on Checklist items
07/26/2002 06:30 AM
Please respond to
shadow-discuss
I've noticed something on 2.5 which I can't recall being there
before. It may have been and I haven't noticed - I've started to use
Shadow a bit more heavily in recent weeks.
For a tasklist item the priority is displayed to the left of the
item, but when the item is changed to a checklist the priority is not
displayed. I find this a little frustrating, since I need to change
items to tasks to see the priority when they don't need to be taks -
just Checklists.
Is there a way round this? , is this a bug?, is there an option I
haven't set? Do others have this problem?
Bryan
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| 6519 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: Linking to Franklin Covey PIM
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| |
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, mcmug1997 wrote:
> The only good thing about PTDL is the treatment of days. You can
> assign tasks to a future day, and it won't appear until that day. I
> haven't seen this simple but important feature in other todo lists.
> Everybody seems to think that todos are timeless. I am new to SP, but
> I think it can be done with SP filters.
I think many ToDo apps can do it; Shadow certainly can using
filters, custom or built in.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6520 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 3:12pm
Subject: Re: Priority display on Checklist items
|
| |
On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, bryanhutcheson wrote:
> I've noticed something on 2.5 which I can't recall being there
> before. It may have been and I haven't noticed - I've started to use
> Shadow a bit more heavily in recent weeks.
>
> For a tasklist item the priority is displayed to the left of the
> item, but when the item is changed to a checklist the priority is not
> displayed. I find this a little frustrating, since I need to change
> items to tasks to see the priority when they don't need to be taks -
> just Checklists.
>
> Is there a way round this? , is this a bug?, is there an option I
> haven't set? Do others have this problem?
Checklists don't have priority column. If the built ins don't do
it for you, you can construct your own views with whatever columns you
like. (See the Ref Guide). You can use the top-right [V] popmenu to change
list type with 2 taps.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6521 |
From: geowyner <gwyner@b...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 6:02pm
Subject: New From still crashing...
|
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Hi all. Just (finally!) installed SP 2.5 -- New From still crashes
when I tap Done. On the other hand... looks like Import Marked To
Dos will be even a better fit for what I need -- looks great... (but
did want to report the bug).
cheers,
George Wyner
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| 6522 |
From: geowyner <gwyner@b...>
Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 8:06pm
Subject: Error syncing new item from HH to DT: "# Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!"
|
| |
Running 2.5.0 (registered version)
Symptom: changes made to outline on handheld don't show up on
desktop after sync.
On examining the sync log, I find the following sequence:
# HH 10453090 not on DT; copying to DT (<title>). Pos 50
# Find referent..
# SB: s 1 id 10453062 rel 1
# Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!
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| 6523 |
From: mcmug1997 <Alex.Fung.Ho-san+yahoo@g...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 3:58am
Subject: no tags on Windows
|
| |
Is it true that the desktop version does not support tags? Seems all
the tags are lost.
Is it safe to edit the records on desktop? When sync back to HH,
would the tags (and other links) survive?
|
| 6524 |
From: mcmug1997 <Alex.Fung.Ho-san+yahoo@g...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:02am
Subject: enhancement request: drawing
|
| |
Would SP have drawing support like Hi-Notes? I found that it is a
rather useful feature. Or can SP develop a link to free drawing
programs like diddlebug
http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/
?
|
| 6525 |
From: Marcia <creink@y...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:38pm
Subject: shadow and GTD
|
| |
I've had Shadow for a while now, off and on my palm. I just dl'ed 2.5 and I
want to give it a try again. I am a registered user. Can someone who uses
GTD with Shadow email me privately and help me out? I want to use it to
help me follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t want to
muck up this list with any OT stuff.
TIA
Marcia
I finally caught up with yesterday....by tomorrow I should be ready for
today.
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| 6526 |
From: Anthony Schellenberg <aschell2000@h...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 2:46pm
Subject: Re: shadow and GTD
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Actually, this kind of stuff is quite welcome here on this list, any good
ideas could also be posted to shadow-tips. There's lots of GTD'ers hanging
out on this list, I've been waiting for some 'how I use shadow' posts too.
-------------------
GTD with Shadow email me privately and help me out? I want to use it to
help me follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t want to
muck up this list with any OT stuff.
TIA
Marcia
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| 6527 |
From: Frederick G. Turner <fred@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 3:30pm
Subject: RE: shadow and GTD
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In May, there was a really thorough (long?) post by Jorge Ledesma on the
GtD_Palm list on Yahoo Groups about how he had implemented the GTD
method in Shadow, together with db5 and a slew of other apps.
Perhaps he could repost; if not, I'll look around, as I have that
stashed somewhere...
Saludos,
Fred.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcia [mailto:creink@y...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
>
>
> I've had Shadow for a while now, off and on my palm. I just
> dl'ed 2.5 and I want to give it a try again. I am a
> registered user. Can someone who uses GTD with Shadow email
> me privately and help me out? I want to use it to help me
> follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t
> want to muck up this list with any OT stuff.
>
> TIA
>
> Marcia
> I finally caught up with yesterday....by tomorrow I should be
> ready for today.
>
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| 6528 |
From: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:32pm
Subject: New poll for shadow-discuss
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
shadow-discuss group:
In the date picker pop-up menu, the
current options are: No Date,
Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow, +1 week,
and Choose Date. Which of the following
options would you like added to the pop-
up list?
o Day after tomorrow
o This Friday
o Next Monday
o Start of next month
o The specific three days after "tomorrow"; i.e. Today's Tuesday, so options would be Thursday, Friday and Saturday in the list.
o No change to current list
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949078
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
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| 6529 |
From: Frederick G. Turner <fred@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:35pm
Subject: Poll on date-picker options
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At Jeff's request, I've created a poll in order to tease out user
preferences as to additions and changes to the date-picker pop-up menu.
Please visit the poll at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949078 and place
your vote so that we can get this option added to SP 2.5.1!
Thanks,
Fred.
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| 6530 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:36pm
Subject: Shadow Plan 2.5 Ref Guide for MSWord
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A fellow user has done a very fine job of hacking up the Ref Guide
for MS-Word, including converting the hyper links into in-.doc links,
making a table of contents, removing the images for better compression,
etc etc.
I've set the file up on the website in the downloads section in
case anyone else wants it. Bear in mind you can use it with Docs2Go or
WordSmith or perhaps the DOC tools to convert into a very nice handheld
side manual.
The downloads page is here:
http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/downloads.html
See the "alternative formats" entry.
Kudos to Scott!
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6531 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Error syncing new item from HH to DT: "# Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!"
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, geowyner wrote:
> Running 2.5.0 (registered version)
>
> Symptom: changes made to outline on handheld don't show up on
> desktop after sync.
>
> On examining the sync log, I find the following sequence:
Nasty. I'll be investigating and reworking the conduit soon; in
the mean time, the usual fix should work: Find your lastsync.txt (the one
below for instance), and in the same location are your XML files. Move
them somewhere else for safe keeping, and you should be good to go.
jeff
>
> # HH 10453090 not on DT; copying to DT (<title>). Pos 50
> # Find referent..
> # SB: s 1 id 10453062 rel 1
> # Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!
>
>
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sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6532 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:39pm
Subject: Re: no tags on Windows
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, mcmug1997 wrote:
> Is it true that the desktop version does not support tags? Seems all
> the tags are lost.
The desktop does not support tags, filters, etc yet. I'll be
working a lot on the desktop soon..
The conduit should not lose any info, the desktop just doesn't
support them yet.
> Is it safe to edit the records on desktop? When sync back to HH, would
> the tags (and other links) survive?
Yep, sure will.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6533 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:40pm
Subject: Re: enhancement request: drawing
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, mcmug1997 wrote:
> Would SP have drawing support like Hi-Notes? I found that it is a
> rather useful feature. Or can SP develop a link to free drawing
> programs like diddlebug
I intend on linking to other applications (like diddlebug and DOC
readers, etc). I've just not had time to get to it :/ I've polled people
many times, and in general, almost no one wants a drawing feature
(amazing, I keep wanting it myself!), so I'll definitely be adding
diddlebug support sometime..
jeff
>
> http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/
>
> ?
>
>
>
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>
>
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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6534 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:41pm
Subject: RE: shadow and GTD
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Frederick G. Turner wrote:
> In May, there was a really thorough (long?) post by Jorge Ledesma on the
> GtD_Palm list on Yahoo Groups about how he had implemented the GTD
> method in Shadow, together with db5 and a slew of other apps.
>
> Perhaps he could repost; if not, I'll look around, as I have that
> stashed somewhere...
Or search the yahoogroups archives?
If you find it, send it over to shadow-tips :)
jeff
>
> Saludos,
> Fred.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcia [mailto:creink@y...]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:38 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
> >
> >
> > I've had Shadow for a while now, off and on my palm. I just
> > dl'ed 2.5 and I want to give it a try again. I am a
> > registered user. Can someone who uses GTD with Shadow email
> > me privately and help me out? I want to use it to help me
> > follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t
> > want to muck up this list with any OT stuff.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Marcia
> > I finally caught up with yesterday....by tomorrow I should be
> > ready for today.
> >
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 6535 |
From: Frederick G. Turner <fred@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:17pm
Subject: RE: shadow and GTD
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I'm reposting an edited version of Jorge Ledesma's
(jledesma28@y...) original GTD method post (originally posted to
the GTD_Palm Yahoo Group:
Saludos,
Fred.
............ Jorge's original message (sorry for the paraphrasing)
...................
Applications used: DateBk5, ActionNames, Shadow, Mega Wiki, Mega
Launcher,
Crypto Pad, Quick Memo, Bug Me(all shareware except Crypto and
MegaWiki).
All my todo's and appt are handled and sorted thru Shadow, where I
highlight
and filter by priority. My main list is called Main Task List with the
following parents:
* Next Action
* Current Action
* Finance & Bills
* Home & Family
* Physics
* DAT Study Schedule
* Clie & GTD
* General Sometime Maybe
* Master Input Template
Under Next Action, Current Action, F & B, H & F, Cie & GTD I have the
following
children:
This Week, This Month, This Quarter, all the main setups are under
Custom
(as you know you can change on command) but I re-sort it under the
Note View
or Flat View -- I find it easier on the eyes and I use bullets for
everything.
I highlight priority with the red colors and it just shines thru on my
Clie
610C.
So my Shadow MTL looks very sharp, I supplement SP with Font Hack with
Lubak's
fonts, amazing, crisp and clear, I use Handera 18B on the standard and
hr standard
with the symbols allocated properly, refer to his site for
instruction, I either
link thru Shadow's link system or MW depending on the situation.
Onto DBK5: DBK5 has some features that are simply incredible -- custom
views,
eg. Birthday, Class Schedule, Dat Study Plan, etc. I have configured
my hard
buttons the following way: the datebook=DBK5, address=ActNms,
todo=Shadow, memo=Quick Memo or Crypto Pad. On DBK5, I use the view that
shows the week, biweekly, and 3-day view as my startup view since I
don't like ActNm's comparable view, grid 1 and grid 2.
I also use the List view all my categories showing for both appts/todos,
all fonts are black and bold, very clear (I use Lubak's OS5 fonts here).
I like Dbk5 month/year views very nice to get a quick glance at things
eg, vacations or whatever you put with bold or big fonts.
From Shadow, let's say I have to input something really quick and I
don't have to time to sort it into the correct list, here comes Master
Input Template: I write it there or sometime if I'm on the go I use Bug
Me with an alarm for a couple hours so I have to time to advance any
ideas or thoughts that I wrote down quickly, works very well because I
don't have to sort immediately; once I have some time I quickly use
Shadow's Multi Clip function to paste where I want eg. Current Action,
this week, this month, this quarter, whatever. When I'm ready to take
action, I move it to Next Action with a set date for a todo or a set
time for an appt./meeting.
If I want to use a memo I use Crypto pad and then store it with Quick
Memo (their newest version imports directly from Crypto or Memo, same
thing, so its got a nice windows interface and its easy to retrieve any
memos, eg. Registration Codes, for all the apps, Personal, Work, School,
you get the picture.
...........................................
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:42 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
>
>
> On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Frederick G. Turner wrote:
>
> > In May, there was a really thorough (long?) post by Jorge
> Ledesma on
> > the GtD_Palm list on Yahoo Groups about how he had
> implemented the GTD
> > method in Shadow, together with db5 and a slew of other apps.
> >
> > Perhaps he could repost; if not, I'll look around, as I have that
> > stashed somewhere...
>
> Or search the yahoogroups archives?
>
> If you find it, send it over to shadow-tips :)
>
> jeff
>
> >
> > Saludos,
> > Fred.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marcia [mailto:creink@y...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
> > >
> > >
> > > I've had Shadow for a while now, off and on my palm. I just
> > > dl'ed 2.5 and I want to give it a try again. I am a
> > > registered user. Can someone who uses GTD with Shadow email
> > > me privately and help me out? I want to use it to help me
> > > follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t
> > > want to muck up this list with any OT stuff.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Marcia
> > > I finally caught up with yesterday....by tomorrow I should be
> > > ready for today.
> > >
> > >
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> own micro circuits without permission from 'Master Control
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> Who does he calculate he is?"
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>
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| 6536 |
From: Malcolm Campbell <malcolmc@s...>
Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 6:02pm
Subject: Re: enhancement request: drawing
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> Would SP have drawing support like Hi-Notes? I found that it is a
> rather useful feature. Or can SP develop a link to free drawing
> programs like diddlebug
>
> http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/
Have you tried linking to Diddlebug using MegaWiki?
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| 6537 |
From: DedePol <kmurray@m...>
Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 0:46am
Subject: Re: Directions
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Desktop please. Options in conduit for Desktop or Handheld override
would be very useful. Project extensions, including Gantt view, seem
like way distant future. Better to get the desktop and handheld
understanding each other first.
__________________________________________________
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2002 Fine for most of today but cloud increasing and a little rain
developing late today or tonight. Northerly winds developing this
morning then freshening. Max 13
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| 6538 |
From: bryanhutcheson <bryan.hutcheson@t...>
Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 10:21am
Subject: Re: Priority display on Checklist items
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Thanks Scott and Jeff - got something set up now. Should've read the
manual!
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., smasters@a... wrote:
>
> From the Reference Guide:
>
> "List Type
> Each Shadow list has a view type associated to it. Don't worry, you
can
> change the type anytime you like. The type is just a general
description
> which tells Shadow how to display the information you're storing in
it. A
> file can be a Checklist (with checkboxes), a Memo (without any
> decorations), a Tasklist (with Priorities, Checkboxes, Progress
Bars,
> Dates, etc), a Flat list (no indentation, but with a todo link
checkbox for
> faster todo linking), or a Custom view (where you can turn on or
off any
> feature you like!) You can pull up List Preferences from within a
list and
> change its view type at any time. You never lose any information ..
you
> just change how it is presented."
>
> If you like the Tasklist view use it. If you want Checklist view
with just
> the Priority added, make a custom item type or custom view. 2.5 is
> extremely flexible in its presentation. Hope this helps.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> "bryanhutcheson"
> <bryan.hutcheson@t... To: shadow-
discuss@y...
> rld.co.uk>
cc:
> Subject:
[shadow-discuss] Priority display on Checklist items
> 07/26/2002 06:30
AM
> Please respond
to
> shadow-
discuss
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I've noticed something on 2.5 which I can't recall being there
> before. It may have been and I haven't noticed - I've started to use
> Shadow a bit more heavily in recent weeks.
>
> For a tasklist item the priority is displayed to the left of the
> item, but when the item is changed to a checklist the priority is
not
> displayed. I find this a little frustrating, since I need to change
> items to tasks to see the priority when they don't need to be taks -
> just Checklists.
>
> Is there a way round this? , is this a bug?, is there an option I
> haven't set? Do others have this problem?
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
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| 6539 |
From: mcmug1997 <Alex.Fung.Ho-san+yahoo@g...>
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:45am
Subject: Re: enhancement request: drawing
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Malcolm Campbell" <malcolmc@s...> wrote:
> > Would SP have drawing support like Hi-Notes?
> Have you tried linking to Diddlebug using MegaWiki?
No. just dl'ed MWiki. Diddlebug also support linking to other
applications. Seems both MWiki and Diddlebug requires specific
plugins to make the link. The document is bit heavy. I'd read the
docs and see what it does.
If the drawing can be done inside SP, it is all the better.
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| 6540 |
From: Frederick G. Turner <fred@s...>
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 2:54pm
Subject: RE: Poll on date-picker options
|
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Thanks to everyone who's voted so far (72 votes!). I will keep the poll
open until Friday, and then close it out and send the results to Jeff.
Please place your vote if you haven't done so yet!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949078
There's probably some self-selection going on, as no one has voted for
"No changes" yet!
Saludos,
Fred.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederick G. Turner [mailto:fred@s...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:36 AM
> To: 'shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: Poll on date-picker options
>
>
> At Jeff's request, I've created a poll in order to tease out
> user preferences as to additions and changes to the
> date-picker pop-up menu.
>
> Please visit the poll at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949078
and place your vote so that we can get this option added to SP 2.5.1!
Thanks,
Fred.
|
| 6541 |
From: George Wyner <gwyner@b...>
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:01pm
Subject: Re: Error syncing new item from HH to DT: "# Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!"
|
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Problem solved. Thanks!
At 12:38 PM 7/27/02 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, geowyner wrote:
>
> > Running 2.5.0 (registered version)
> >
> > Symptom: changes made to outline on handheld don't show up on
> > desktop after sync.
> >
> > On examining the sync log, I find the following sequence:
>
> Nasty. I'll be investigating and reworking the conduit soon; in
>the mean time, the usual fix should work: Find your lastsync.txt (the one
>below for instance), and in the same location are your XML files. Move
>them somewhere else for safe keeping, and you should be good to go.
>
> jeff
>
> >
> > # HH 10453090 not on DT; copying to DT (<title>). Pos 50
> > # Find referent..
> > # SB: s 1 id 10453062 rel 1
> > # Couldn't determine ref! Bailing!
> >
> >
> >
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
| 6542 |
From: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:06pm
Subject: New poll for shadow-discuss
|
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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
shadow-discuss group:
Most outline apps "rollup" the due
dates (i.e. Bonsai, MS Project) so
that the parent task’s due date is
automatically the latest due date of
its sub-tasks. Shadow does this now
with a task's status but not dates,
would you like to see rolled-up due
dates implemented?
o Yes, as a list option
o Yes, as a global option
o Nope, don’t need it
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949790
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
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| 6543 |
From: grn_white <michael.walter@r...>
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:47pm
Subject: Fonts/font picker
|
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Jeff,
Up til now I have been very happy with the font picker/setup. Been
using Fontbucket and a compact font - everything's great. Then a
couple of days ago I needed to be able to easily read a list as it was
an outline of questions to ask a witness (i'm a lawyer). I then
realized that in order to get that font, I had to go back through the
prefs screen and change my fonts - which of course is a global pref so
it changed all lists. So it took too long to select a font, and
forced me to go through the same process when I wanted a smaller font
on a different list, and back again - etc.
2 alternative requests:
1. Could the font picker be made a list pref so that you could have
different fonts for different lists - as my ability to easily read a
list quickly - (ie giving a speech) vs. desire to cram on other lists
currently makes a global pref difficult.
2. Alternative: Currently there are 2 fonts - normal and bold. Could
there be a third global pref selection - large? Then could the font
display be picked from the menu (ie under edit or tools) much as you
can do in the native palm memo app. I envision a font selection under
the edit menu, that when tapped would let you select normal, bold,
large, which would be the fonts set in the global prefs. This would
allow quick swithces between fonts for different uses if making it a
list pref is too difficult.
|
| 6544 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:27pm
Subject: Re: Fonts/font picker
|
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, grn_white wrote:
> Up til now I have been very happy with the font picker/setup. Been
> using Fontbucket and a compact font - everything's great. Then a
> couple of days ago I needed to be able to easily read a list as it was
> an outline of questions to ask a witness (i'm a lawyer). I then
> realized that in order to get that font, I had to go back through the
> prefs screen and change my fonts - which of course is a global pref so
> it changed all lists. So it took too long to select a font, and
> forced me to go through the same process when I wanted a smaller font
> on a different list, and back again - etc.
>
> 2 alternative requests:
>
> 1. Could the font picker be made a list pref so that you could have
> different fonts for different lists - as my ability to easily read a
> list quickly - (ie giving a speech) vs. desire to cram on other lists
> currently makes a global pref difficult.
That would likely lead to confusion -- ie: People would hate to
have to do it for each and every list. So you'd have to do it globally
anyway, as a default, then override on a list by list basis. So you'd have
global *and* list level font prefs. So far, I've avoided having
conflicting prefs... it confuses peopel and blows up my support inbox :)
> 2. Alternative: Currently there are 2 fonts - normal and bold. Could
> there be a third global pref selection - large? Then could the font
> display be picked from the menu (ie under edit or tools) much as you
> can do in the native palm memo app. I envision a font selection under
> the edit menu, that when tapped would let you select normal, bold,
> large, which would be the fonts set in the global prefs. This would
> allow quick swithces between fonts for different uses if making it a
> list pref is too difficult.
Sounds like more what you want is .. "font group a" (defaults),
"font group B", etc, globaly defined, and a list option to pick the font
group. *shrug*. Thats possible, but down the road for sure.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 6545 |
From: mcmug1997 <Alex.Fung.Ho-san+yahoo@g...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 4:51am
Subject: Re: enhancement request: drawing
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Malcolm Campbell" <malcolmc@s...> wrote:
> > Would SP have drawing support like Hi-Notes? I found that it is a
> > rather useful feature. Or can SP develop a link to free drawing
> > programs like diddlebug
> >
> > http://diddlebug.sourceforge.net/
>
> Have you tried linking to Diddlebug using MegaWiki?
Just browsed through the manual. MegaWiki looks great but I can't
find a plugin for Shadow Plan yet.
|
| 6546 |
From: pfieldho_99 <pfieldho_99@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:24am
Subject: Re: "Bad Load! The list could not be loaded!"
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "ebisuzaki_r" <ebisuzaki_r@y...> wrote:
> I was at a meeting and entered different actions I needed to do in
SP. When I
> hotsynced there was a fatal error. I took my Visor Deluxe off the
cradle and
> did a soft reset. Now when I try to open the SP file, I get a
message "Bad
> Load!" and can't open the file. Is there a way of recovering this
file? Your help
> would be much appreciated!
I too experienced this error today. It was a file I was doing a fair
amount of work on and none of my usual tricks worked to recover it. I
tried moving all the files from ShadowPlan160 (minus the .reg file)
and syncing. I returned an older version and synced. I opened the
older version (in both ShadowPlan and in Notepad), edited it, and
then saved it. I removed the file from my handheld with ZCatalog and
synced. No luck!
At this point I have resorted to opening the older version on the
desktop, coping and pasting all the items from the corrupt newer
version to a new file with a slightly different name. This is working
of course. Now I have to recreate the additions I made today.
What's up with this "Bad Load! The list could not be loaded!" message
Jeff?
|
| 6547 |
From: pfieldho_99 <pfieldho_99@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:34am
Subject: Re: "Bad Load! The list could not be loaded!" The stuff I forgot to add.
|
| |
Sorry Jeff. Forgot to add the regular stuff:
SP 2.5.0 / DT 1.1.0 - Registered
Viosr Prism - Palm OS v.3.5.2H1.5
X-Master with Linker and McPhling hacks active
|
| 6548 |
From: steffenduerrwang <Steffen.Duerrwang@K...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:56am
Subject: Re: Fonts/font picker
|
| |
hi jeff,
i would like to have faster font-selection as well.
what about saved fonts in custom views?
ciao
steffen
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, grn_white wrote:
>
> > Up til now I have been very happy with the font picker/setup.
Been
> > using Fontbucket and a compact font - everything's great. Then a
> > couple of days ago I needed to be able to easily read a list as
it was
> > an outline of questions to ask a witness (i'm a lawyer). I then
> > realized that in order to get that font, I had to go back through
the
> > prefs screen and change my fonts - which of course is a global
pref so
> > it changed all lists. So it took too long to select a font, and
> > forced me to go through the same process when I wanted a smaller
font
> > on a different list, and back again - etc.
> >
> > 2 alternative requests:
> >
> > 1. Could the font picker be made a list pref so that you could
have
> > different fonts for different lists - as my ability to easily
read a
> > list quickly - (ie giving a speech) vs. desire to cram on other
lists
> > currently makes a global pref difficult.
>
> That would likely lead to confusion -- ie: People would hate
to
> have to do it for each and every list. So you'd have to do it
globally
> anyway, as a default, then override on a list by list basis. So
you'd have
> global *and* list level font prefs. So far, I've avoided having
> conflicting prefs... it confuses peopel and blows up my support
inbox :)
>
> > 2. Alternative: Currently there are 2 fonts - normal and bold.
Could
> > there be a third global pref selection - large? Then could the
font
> > display be picked from the menu (ie under edit or tools) much as
you
> > can do in the native palm memo app. I envision a font selection
under
> > the edit menu, that when tapped would let you select normal, bold,
> > large, which would be the fonts set in the global prefs. This
would
> > allow quick swithces between fonts for different uses if making
it a
> > list pref is too difficult.
>
> Sounds like more what you want is .. "font group a"
(defaults),
> "font group B", etc, globaly defined, and a list option to pick the
font
> group. *shrug*. Thats possible, but down the road for sure.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 6549 |
From: Malcolm Campbell <malcolmc@s...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 10:54am
Subject: Re: Re: enhancement request: drawing
|
| |
> > Have you tried linking to Diddlebug using MegaWiki?
>
> Just browsed through the manual. MegaWiki looks great but I can't
> find a plugin for Shadow Plan yet.
MegaWiki only needs plugins to create items in other applications - it can
link to items just fine without it... as long as the application supports
Find, properly... Works fine with Shadowplan for me.
--- Malcolm
|
| 6550 |
From: Joel Riedesel <joelremote@e...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:47am
Subject: Re:[New poll for shadow-discuss
|
| |
It would be nice if the 'rollup' for the date could be
specified to be either the earliest or latest date.
Perhaps that could be added to the poll? Or simply a preference
enabled for it.
Joel
Message: 4
Date: 29 Jul 2002 17:06:29 -0000
From: shadow-discuss
Subject: New poll for shadow-discuss
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
shadow-discuss group:
Most outline apps "rollup" the due
dates (i.e. Bonsai, MS Project) so
that the parent task’s due date is
automatically the latest due date of
its sub-tasks. Shadow does this now
with a task's status but not dates,
would you like to see rolled-up due
dates implemented?
o Yes, as a list option
o Yes, as a global option
o Nope, don’t need it
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/surveys?id=949790
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
|
| 6551 |
From: grn_white <michael.walter@r...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 0:30pm
Subject: Re: Fonts/font picker
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, grn_white wrote:
>
> > Up til now I have been very happy with the font picker/setup.
Been
> > using Fontbucket and a compact font - everything's great. Then a
> > couple of days ago I needed to be able to easily read a list as it
was
> > an outline of questions to ask a witness (i'm a lawyer). I then
> > realized that in order to get that font, I had to go back through
the
> > prefs screen and change my fonts - which of course is a global
pref so
> > it changed all lists. So it took too long to select a font, and
> > forced me to go through the same process when I wanted a smaller
font
> > on a different list, and back again - etc.
> >
> > 2 alternative requests:
> >
> > 1. Could the font picker be made a list pref so that you could
have
> > different fonts for different lists - as my ability to easily read
a
> > list quickly - (ie giving a speech) vs. desire to cram on other
lists
> > currently makes a global pref difficult.
>
> That would likely lead to confusion -- ie: People would hate
to
> have to do it for each and every list. So you'd have to do it
globally
> anyway, as a default, then override on a list by list basis. So
you'd have
> global *and* list level font prefs. So far, I've avoided having
> conflicting prefs... it confuses peopel and blows up my support
inbox :)
>
> > 2. Alternative: Currently there are 2 fonts - normal and bold.
Could
> > there be a third global pref selection - large? Then could the
font
> > display be picked from the menu (ie under edit or tools) much as
you
> > can do in the native palm memo app. I envision a font selection
under
> > the edit menu, that when tapped would let you select normal, bold,
> > large, which would be the fonts set in the global prefs. This
would
> > allow quick swithces between fonts for different uses if making it
a
> > list pref is too difficult.
>
> Sounds like more what you want is .. "font group a"
(defaults),
> "font group B", etc, globaly defined, and a list option to pick the
font
> group. *shrug*. Thats possible, but down the road for sure.
>
> jeff
Actually Jeff, not that complicated, option 2 was just an easier way
to select which of the already defined fonts would be selected to view
a list. Many apps (ie memopad, doc readers etc.) have a font picker
to allow you to quickly switch between the 3 native fonts. I just
want a quicker picker (oh my, it must be early) so that I could
quickly switch to a large font display - to quickly make the list
easier to read when you are quickly viewing it - ie. giving a speech
(to easily see speaking points), trying to read on the train, etc, and
then switch back to smaller font display when working on your list to
have crammage. Oh well maybe in 3.0.
|
| 6552 |
From: onemoreolive <onemoreolive@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 2:31pm
Subject: Re: Fonts/font picker
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "steffenduerrwang"
> i would like to have faster font-selection as well.
> what about saved fonts in custom views?
>
Yeah Jeff,
What a great idea! Why didn't I think of it. ;)
Gerry
|
| 6553 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:42pm
Subject: Re: Re: "Bad Load! The list could not be loaded!"
|
| |
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, pfieldho_99 wrote:
> cradle and
> > did a soft reset. Now when I try to open the SP file, I get a
> message "Bad
> > Load!" and can't open the file. Is there a way of recovering this
> file? Your help
> > would be much appreciated!
>
> I too experienced this error today. It was a file I was doing a fair
> amount of work on and none of my usual tricks worked to recover it. I
> tried moving all the files from ShadowPlan160 (minus the .reg file)
> and syncing. I returned an older version and synced. I opened the
> older version (in both ShadowPlan and in Notepad), edited it, and
> then saved it. I removed the file from my handheld with ZCatalog and
> synced. No luck!
Since the handheld file is the borked one, you want to keep the
XML files; you can rename or delete it on the handheld, and ask the
desktop to send up its copy, and you're back in business right away.
> At this point I have resorted to opening the older version on the
> desktop, coping and pasting all the items from the corrupt newer
> version to a new file with a slightly different name. This is working
> of course. Now I have to recreate the additions I made today.
Didn't you synch recently (ie: The desktop version is out of
date?)
> What's up with this "Bad Load! The list could not be loaded!" message
It can happen during a crashed synch; sadly, there is a pretty
rare crash bug in the conduit which can cause it. That will be fixed in a
little while (very high priority).
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 6554 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:42pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fonts/font picker
|
| |
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, steffenduerrwang wrote:
> i would like to have faster font-selection as well. what about saved
> fonts in custom views?
Sometime in the future, perhaps I'll have a tonne of options in
the Views. But not for awhile.. other things must happen first :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 6555 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 7:00pm
Subject: Progress bar background
|
| |
Right now the little progress bars are dark blue on light
blue; this may be difficult to see (due to contrast) on some unit display
types. Shoudl it be dark blue on white instead?
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 6556 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:11pm
Subject: Re: Progress bar background
|
| |
mine shows them fine, and i like as is.
kevin
p.s. sony clie 760
------------------------------
Enjoy life!
------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Progress bar background
Right now the little progress bars are dark blue on light
blue; this may be difficult to see (due to contrast) on some unit display
types. Shoudl it be dark blue on white instead?
--
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sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
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|
| 6557 |
From: Dennis <dennis@p...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:45pm
Subject: What made you decide?
|
| |
Hi,
This may seem like a strange question to ask this list.
How did you finally decide on Shadow? What made you say "Yeah this is for me?" I'm normally quite a cheapskate when it comes to buying software and usually use the entire trial period when possible. But I will pay when I feel that something is worth it and useful to me. So far, I have seen some great interaction on this yahoo group and the GTD group from users. I'm trying to implement the GTD philosophy and want desperately to use my Palm to help. I *think* Shadow is what I'm looking for (along with DateBk5, which I've been using for a year now).
I really enjoy when users post how they use their Palm and what software they organize their lives. Some of the setups suggest that people spent quite a few bucks ongetting system to work for them.
Thanks for any thoughts
dennis
|
| 6558 |
From: wbornstein <wbornstein@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:04pm
Subject: Re: shadow and GTD
|
| |
Thank you for posting this. I didn't initiate this thread, but I too
am seeking something relatively simple. I'm new to Shadow (and still
assessing its suitability for my needs) and have been using LB for
GTD. I need to organize isolated action items,agenda, projects, etc.
and to display next actions by context, ranked by priority and due
date. LB accomplished all this but I found the ranking process to be
not transparent enough (i.e., too cumbersome) and I didn't find the
balancing pie to be useful for my purposes. I recognize that Shadow
is extremely powerful and has much more functionality than I need. I
am trying to avoid increasing complexity further by using multiple
applications as described in this thread. I am really trying to
assess whether there is a relatively simple way to use Shadow as the
single app for my todo/project needs. I would very much appreciate
any help that anyone can provide to get me started that explains a
simple way to structure categories, lists, and tags to accomplish
these goals.
Thanks.
Bill
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Frederick G. Turner" <fred@s...> wrote:
> I'm reposting an edited version of Jorge Ledesma's
> (jledesma28@y...) original GTD method post (originally posted to
> the GTD_Palm Yahoo Group:
>
> Saludos,
> Fred.
>
> ............ Jorge's original message (sorry for the paraphrasing)
> ...................
> Applications used: DateBk5, ActionNames, Shadow, Mega Wiki, Mega
> Launcher,
> Crypto Pad, Quick Memo, Bug Me(all shareware except Crypto and
> MegaWiki).
>
> All my todo's and appt are handled and sorted thru Shadow, where I
> highlight
> and filter by priority. My main list is called Main Task List
with the
> following parents:
>
> * Next Action
> * Current Action
> * Finance & Bills
> * Home & Family
> * Physics
> * DAT Study Schedule
> * Clie & GTD
> * General Sometime Maybe
> * Master Input Template
>
> Under Next Action, Current Action, F & B, H & F, Cie & GTD I have
the
> following
> children:
> This Week, This Month, This Quarter, all the main setups are under
> Custom
> (as you know you can change on command) but I re-sort it under the
> Note View
> or Flat View -- I find it easier on the eyes and I use bullets for
> everything.
> I highlight priority with the red colors and it just shines thru
on my
> Clie
> 610C.
>
> So my Shadow MTL looks very sharp, I supplement SP with Font Hack
with
> Lubak's
> fonts, amazing, crisp and clear, I use Handera 18B on the
standard and
> hr standard
> with the symbols allocated properly, refer to his site for
> instruction, I either
> link thru Shadow's link system or MW depending on the situation.
>
> Onto DBK5: DBK5 has some features that are simply incredible --
custom
> views,
> eg. Birthday, Class Schedule, Dat Study Plan, etc. I have
configured
> my hard
> buttons the following way: the datebook=DBK5, address=ActNms,
> todo=Shadow, memo=Quick Memo or Crypto Pad. On DBK5, I use the view
that
> shows the week, biweekly, and 3-day view as my startup view since I
> don't like ActNm's comparable view, grid 1 and grid 2.
>
> I also use the List view all my categories showing for both
appts/todos,
> all fonts are black and bold, very clear (I use Lubak's OS5 fonts
here).
> I like Dbk5 month/year views very nice to get a quick glance at
things
> eg, vacations or whatever you put with bold or big fonts.
>
> From Shadow, let's say I have to input something really quick and I
> don't have to time to sort it into the correct list, here comes
Master
> Input Template: I write it there or sometime if I'm on the go I
use Bug
> Me with an alarm for a couple hours so I have to time to advance any
> ideas or thoughts that I wrote down quickly, works very well
because I
> don't have to sort immediately; once I have some time I quickly use
> Shadow's Multi Clip function to paste where I want eg. Current
Action,
> this week, this month, this quarter, whatever. When I'm ready to
take
> action, I move it to Next Action with a set date for a todo or a set
> time for an appt./meeting.
>
> If I want to use a memo I use Crypto pad and then store it with
Quick
> Memo (their newest version imports directly from Crypto or Memo,
same
> thing, so its got a nice windows interface and its easy to retrieve
any
> memos, eg. Registration Codes, for all the apps, Personal, Work,
School,
> you get the picture.
> ...........................................
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:42 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@y...
> > Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Frederick G. Turner wrote:
> >
> > > In May, there was a really thorough (long?) post by Jorge
> > Ledesma on
> > > the GtD_Palm list on Yahoo Groups about how he had
> > implemented the GTD
> > > method in Shadow, together with db5 and a slew of other apps.
> > >
> > > Perhaps he could repost; if not, I'll look around, as I have
that
> > > stashed somewhere...
> >
> > Or search the yahoogroups archives?
> >
> > If you find it, send it over to shadow-tips :)
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > >
> > > Saludos,
> > > Fred.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Marcia [mailto:creink@y...]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:38 AM
> > > > To: shadow-discuss@y...
> > > > Subject: [shadow-discuss] shadow and GTD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've had Shadow for a while now, off and on my palm. I just
> > > > dl'ed 2.5 and I want to give it a try again. I am a
> > > > registered user. Can someone who uses GTD with Shadow email
> > > > me privately and help me out? I want to use it to help me
> > > > follow jobs I am doing and make my life easier but I don' t
> > > > want to muck up this list with any OT stuff.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > Marcia
> > > > I finally caught up with yesterday....by tomorrow I should be
> > > > ready for today.
> > > >
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| 6559 |
From: Earthlink <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 10:25pm
Subject: Re: What made you decide?
|
| |
Dennis,
My decision for Shadow was based upon using the "other" outline programs out there previously and becoming very frustrated with their individual limitations. Like Life Balance prioritizing in its way for me, when i may not choose the preferences it chooses, and then taking too much time to figure how to get what it does the way i want. The others either couldn't do what i wanted, made it a pain to enter info, or would not display what i wanted, and no options to do what i wanted. Simply stated, Shadow gives you options for almost everything | |
