From: lex.bijlsma@p...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 7:11am
Subject: Re: Trouble Importing Datebook and Todo Items

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., <1drummer@m...> wrote:
> I am thrilled to see the new feature of 'New From...' that imports 
from the
> datebook, however, I cannot get it to work.  I tap 'New From...' 
then the
> datebook tab, but the list is empty.  It tap 'pick week' and choose 
this
> week which is loaded with events, but still nothing in the list.  
None of my
> private entries are hidden, so what gives?  Also, if I do 'New 
from...' and
> scroll through todos, I only see a few done todos from the previous 
days and
> only 1 or 2 incomplete todos when I know there are at least 20 
current todos
> on my list right now.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I am using 
Shadow 1.5
> on a IIIx.  OS 3.1 - Any ideas?

At first I didn't notice, because most of my events and todos do show 
up -- but when I looked closer I discovered that some were missing. I 
can detect no pattern to which ones are missing and which ones are 
present. Also, some events are mysteriously preceded by two high-ASCII 
international symbols (letters with diacritical marks, currency 
symbols, etc.). Using Shadow 1.5.0 on a Palm V with OS3.1.

Lex Bijlsma

From: Aaron Ebata  <aebata@h...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:59am
Subject: Re: Problems with linking to an address or memo

I too have been having some problems with fatal errors on a slightly
different aspect of the link process.  I can add a link OK, but trying to
delete one causes errors. Originally, I tried disabling hacks, then
reinstalling, and it seemed to solve the problem.  But several sessions
later, the problem was occurring again.

Aaron

> Another recently 'converted' fan of shadow. Just trying out the latest
version, but can't seem to get the link to address/memo feature working.
When I go to the link menu and press 'add' it begins to show a list of
addresses and then the dreaded words 'fatal error' come up and the visor
needs to be reset. I understand (from reading the manual!!) that a sub-menu
should come up after pressing the 'add' a link button, with a choice of
adding either memos or addresses (as well as an option to choose the default
address/memo programme)? That never appears on my machine. I've disabled all
my hacks and tried, but still no luck. Anyone got any ideas???
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm

From: AMacQueen@o...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 1:19pm
Subject: New user

After 3 years with Palms, I have recently discovered Shadow & really 
like it - it thinks the way I do, and that's quite an achievement!

One question & one problem:

The shortcuts seem counter-intuitive & therefore a bit difficult to 
remember. I am using Shadow with a GoType, mostly for note-taking & 
so use shortcuts quite a lot. Are there any mnemonics??

Also, I am trying to load the Windows interface, but can't select an 
account to install to. Even "select all" still gives me "0 of 0 
accounts selected". Any ideas, please?

Keep up the good work!!

Andy

PS I _am_ trying to register, but Handango keeps bouncing my CC 
details; never usually a problem.

PPS Why not ask Handango to offer Shadow on their UK expansys site, 
as well?

>>>>>>>>>
This posting written using 100% recycled electrons

From: Roy van der Woning  <rvdw98@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 2:28pm
Subject: Severed links

Hi group,

I was playing around with a new security app yesterday and ended up 
being locked out of my Palm because of a bug that caused my login 
code to be reset. So I had to do a cold reset and restore my device 
from a backup.

The restore went fine but had a rather disturbing side-effect: all 
the links to ToDo's I had defined in my Shadow lists had become 
invalid. The same thing happened with all my links in DateBk4.

I suspect that Shadow (like DateBk4) uses the Unique ID's of ToDo 
records to implement its linking mechanism. I am using Desktop To Go 
as a conduit between the major Palm databases and Outlook 2000. From 
conversations with a Desktop To Go developer it became clear that 
under certain circumstances (like a restore after a cold reset) the 
original Unique ID's of the Palm databases are not necessarily 
retained.

The DateBk4 developer claims that the original Palm Desktop conduits 
do preserve Unique ID's at all times but that some third party 
conduits do not, and that this is the cause of the lost links. But 
the Desktop To Go developer asserts that there is not a single Palm 
requirement saying that Unique ID's should be preserved and that 
Desktop To Go has received Platinum Certification several times 
without any mentioning of this issue.

Given the fact that I'm not the only Desktop To Go user, and probably 
also not the only one using Shadow as well, this is a potential 
problem for all Shadow (and DateBk4) users with Desktop To Go (and 
most likely several other third party conduits).

Has this issue ever been recognized and/or researched? Is there a way 
for me to make sure that I don't have to manually recreate all my 
links again like I've been doing most of the day today?

Roy.

From: megold@e...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 6:58pm
Subject: Re: Problems with linking to an address or memo

I've seen a Fatal Error in a similar fashion in version 1.50.  I have 
a Palm 3x and I use Tealphone for my contacts.  I was able to link to 
contacts but now the list comes up blank.  After numerous attempts at 
coming in and out of that window and tapping around within the 
window, I received a Fatal Error once, in MemoryMgrNew.c, Line:4257, 
Invalid Chunk ptr. I am still able to click on the items with linked 
addresses and they come up fine.

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Aaron Ebata" <aebata@h...> wrote:
> 
> I too have been having some problems with fatal errors on a slightly
> different aspect of the link process.  I can add a link OK, but 
trying to
> delete one causes errors. Originally, I tried disabling hacks, then
> reinstalling, and it seemed to solve the problem.  But several 
sessions
> later, the problem was occurring again.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> > Another recently 'converted' fan of shadow. Just trying out the 
latest
> version, but can't seem to get the link to address/memo feature 
working.
> When I go to the link menu and press 'add' it begins to show a list 
of
> addresses and then the dreaded words 'fatal error' come up and the 
visor
> needs to be reset. I understand (from reading the manual!!) that a 
sub-menu
> should come up after pressing the 'add' a link button, with a 
choice of
> adding either memos or addresses (as well as an option to choose 
the default
> address/memo programme)? That never appears on my machine. I've 
disabled all
> my hacks and tried, but still no luck. Anyone got any ideas???
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Malcolm

From: 1drummer@m...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:08pm
Subject: RE: Severed links

The DateBk4 developer claims that the original Palm Desktop conduits
  do preserve Unique ID's at all times but that some third party
  conduits do not, and that this is the cause of the lost links. But
  the Desktop To Go developer asserts that there is not a single Palm
  requirement saying that Unique ID's should be preserved and that
  Desktop To Go has received Platinum Certification several times
  without any mentioning of this issue.

   <snip>

   Has this issue ever been recognized and/or researched? Is there a way
  for me to make sure that I don't have to manually recreate all my
  links again like I've been doing most of the day today?


  I tried to sync my palm to my laptop the other day and ended up with all
of my categories messed up and my palm refused to sync after that.  I did a
hard reset and reinstalled from my PC from the palm desktop and all my links
returned in tact in both shadow and datebk4.  I use pocket mirror as a
conduit, but I almost always do an extra hotsync to backup to the palm
desktop so that if I ever need to restore from it the links will remain in
tact.

  Gretchen

  http://members.tripod.com/pugnut
  ********************************************
  Just my 2Ē - take it, leave it, or make change.






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From: Learned  <learned@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:17pm
Subject: RE: Severed links

I am going to need to start backing up to Outlook on my new laptop, but I 
would like to continue to maintain the palm desktop backup as well. Can you 
tell me how you have it configured to do both?

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:08:56 -0600, 1drummer@m... wrote:
>
>I tried to sync my palm to my laptop the other day and ended up with all
>of my categories messed up and my palm refused to sync after that. I did a
>hard reset and reinstalled from my PC from the palm desktop and all my links
>returned in tact in both shadow and datebk4. I use pocket mirror as a
>conduit, but I almost always do an extra hotsync to backup to the palm
>desktop so that if I ever need to restore from it the links will remain in
>tact.

From: ben@s...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:58pm
Subject: Conduit Issues

Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
To-Do database, etc. 

Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new Windoze 
conduit :-(

After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would crash 
with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not change the 
Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You know,
"Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I tried to 
uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. More 
:-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the Hotsync
list and now I can 'sync again.

I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm IIIc and 
BackupBuddy 1.31

Anyone else having these kinds of problems?

- ben

From: 1drummer@m...
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:09pm
Subject: RE: Severed links

Pocket Mirror has an option in the user preferences for 'one-time action of
next hotsync'.  It's a drop-down menu and one of the options is 'backup to
palm desktop'.  I just select that option to backup up to the desktop and
then do another sync after that one to sync with Outlook.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Learned [mailto:learned@t...]
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:17 PM
  To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Severed links


  I am going to need to start backing up to Outlook on my new laptop, but I
  would like to continue to maintain the palm desktop backup as well. Can
you
  tell me how you have it configured to do both?

  On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:08:56 -0600, 1drummer@m... wrote:
  >
  >I tried to sync my palm to my laptop the other day and ended up with all
  >of my categories messed up and my palm refused to sync after that. I did
a
  >hard reset and reinstalled from my PC from the palm desktop and all my
links
  >returned in tact in both shadow and datebk4. I use pocket mirror as a
  >conduit, but I almost always do an extra hotsync to backup to the palm
  >desktop so that if I ever need to restore from it the links will remain
in
  >tact.


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From: glacefield@v...
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 3:56am
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., ben@s... wrote:
> ...Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new 
Windoze conduit :-(
> 
> After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would
> crash with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not
> change the Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog.
> (You know, "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally,
> when I tried to uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during
> Uninstall" message. More :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow
> conduit from the Hotsync list and now I can 'sync again.
> 
> I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm IIIc 
and 
> BackupBuddy 1.31
> 
> Anyone else having these kinds of problems?

I'm having the same problem. Fatal error at HotSync, can't change the 
conduit, etc. However, the uninstall did not remove the conduit, and 
I have no way of turning it off or removing it.
I'm using W98, serial cradle, HotSync 3.0.4, Palm IIIc, BB 1.40. Note 
that this behavior occurred as soon as I installed 1.5.0, and changed 
nothing else in my Palm. Since it appears to be the upgrade, I am 
about to try to revert back to 1.4.0, but I am leery about doing so 
since I think the conduit may interfere with my 1.4 data.

Help!  I used to LOVE Shadow, but this new version is a pain.

Greg

From: glacefield@v...
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 6:11am
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., glacefield@v... wrote:

> ... However, the uninstall did not remove the conduit, and 
> I have no way of turning it off or removing it.

OK, I (halfway) lied; trying the uninstall a second time resulted in 
the same error, but the conduit is gone now.

Greg

From: andersfogelberg@s...
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 9:04am
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

I had a similar problem: the hotsync process stopped dead when it 
came to Shadow. This was when I had installed the 4.16Beta version 
instead of an older version. Chech out messages 353-355 in this 
groups discussion. Opening the files, making a small change and 
closing them again worked fine for me. I canīt recall all the steps I 
had to go through (it took me some time since I think I did a hard 
reset as well. This was probably not needed though)After that the 
hotsyncproblems you described disappeared!

Good Luck

Anders Fogelberg
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., ben@s... wrote:
> Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
> To-Do database, etc. 
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new 
Windoze 
> conduit :-(
> 
> After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would 
crash 
> with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not change 
the 
> Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You know,
> "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I tried 
to 
> uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. 
More 
> :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the Hotsync
> list and now I can 'sync again.
> 
> I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm IIIc 
and 
> BackupBuddy 1.31
> 
> Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
> 
> - ben

From: Roy van der Woning  <rvdw98@y...>
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:47pm
Subject: Re: Severed links

Desktop To Go also has such an option, but it doesn't need an extra 
HotSync. If this option is active, DTG will always make a backup copy 
to the Palm Desktop after synchronization.

Roy.

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., <1drummer@m...> wrote:
> Pocket Mirror has an option in the user preferences for 'one-time
> action of next hotsync'.  It's a drop-down menu and one of the
> options is 'backup to palm desktop'.  I just select that option
> to backup up to the desktop and then do another sync after that
> one to sync with Outlook.

>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Learned [mailto:learned@t...]
>   Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:17 PM
>   To: shadow-discuss@y...
>   Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Severed links
> 
> 
>   I am going to need to start backing up to Outlook on my new
>   laptop, but I would like to continue to maintain the palm
>   desktop backup as well. Can you tell me how you have it
>   configured to do both?

From: easy-123@e...
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

I would suggest you check out the messages that follow message 355, 
say to at least message 362. I had the problem these messages 
describe which was also killed my hotsync.

stan

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., andersfogelberg@s... wrote:
> I had a similar problem: the hotsync process stopped dead when it 
> came to Shadow. This was when I had installed the 4.16Beta version 
> instead of an older version. Chech out messages 353-355 in this 
> groups discussion. Opening the files, making a small change and 
> closing them again worked fine for me. I canīt recall all the steps 
I 
> had to go through (it took me some time since I think I did a hard 
> reset as well. This was probably not needed though)After that the 
> hotsyncproblems you described disappeared!
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Anders Fogelberg
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., ben@s... wrote:
> > Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
> > To-Do database, etc. 
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new 
> Windoze 
> > conduit :-(
> > 
> > After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would 
> crash 
> > with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not change 
> the 
> > Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You know,
> > "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I 
tried 
> to 
> > uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. 
> More 
> > :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the Hotsync
> > list and now I can 'sync again.
> > 
> > I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm IIIc 
> and 
> > BackupBuddy 1.31
> > 
> > Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
> > 
> > - ben

From: Roy van der Woning  <rvdw98@y...>
Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:55pm
Subject: Re: Severed links

>   I tried to sync my palm to my laptop the other day and ended up
> with all of my categories messed up and my palm refused to sync
> after that.

After a very constructive dialog with one of the Desktop To Go 
developers, the latest version (2.509) handles synchronization 
between two PC's beautifully now. I can now sync both at home and at 
work without any problems.

Except for the uneventful broken link issue that is...

> I did a hard reset and reinstalled from my PC from the palm
> desktop and all my links returned in tact in both shadow and
> datebk4.

I brought up this issue with the DTG and DateBk4 people as well and 
they are now in contact with eachother to (hopefully) find a solution 
for this issue. Doing an additional sync to the Palm Desktop is an 
option, but I was hoping for a more streamlined solution.

Roy.

From: lnewman@n...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 0:27am
Subject: Re: Re: Soft Resets

Dear All

Three times this morning when attempting to cut and paste items across folders 
I got this message "Data Mgr.c, Line 5162, Err Deleting rec - Reset" - 
following which the Plam did a soft reset.  Now, I didn't lose anything but was 
worried for amoment or two.  Is this a bug in 1.5.0?  Any comments?

Len

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From: Malcolm Firth  <mnf1000@l...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:46am
Subject: linking/back-up/xml files

Hi there,

Still can't get the address/memo linking to work. My problem is that the sub-menu (after pressing the 'add' button in the link menu, never appears. Instead, I see (for a brief second) a list of addresses loading, and then the 'fatal exception' screen.
I've disabled all my hacks and tried re-installing the software, but still nothing.

However, I do have one question about the backup files for shadow plan. When I deleted the program from my Visor, all the data was deleted as well. When I reinstalled the program, I went to the shadow plan folder in my palm folder, to reinstall my outlines and I found xml files. Double clicking on these opened my internet browser, but I couldn't read anything except a couple lines of text. Fortunately, I have BackupBuddy so was able to reinstall the outline files from my archived folder.

My question is. If you don't have backupbuddy, will shadowplan backup your data so you can reinstall your outlines in the event of a reset? What are xml files - do they work with a specific windows program. Will I be able to read my outlines on my desktop and edit them?

Just wondering what the point of the windows conduit is?

Malcolm

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Riga, Latvia


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From: glacefield@v...
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 6:26am
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

Yep, I had some list names with invalid Windows characters. I changed 
them, resynced, and voila! everything worked!  I'll be using 1.5 now, 
thanks!

One more thing...did the "tags" Jeff referred to in message 75 as 
being planned for 1.5 ever make it into the release? If they did, I 
can't find them. Do I need to anticipate them in a future release?

Thanks,

Greg

--- In shadow-discuss@y..., easy-123@e... wrote:
> I would suggest you check out the messages that follow message 355, 
> say to at least message 362. I had the problem these messages 
> describe which was also killed my hotsync.
> 
> stan
> 
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., andersfogelberg@s... wrote:
> > I had a similar problem: the hotsync process stopped dead when it 
> > came to Shadow. This was when I had installed the 4.16Beta 
version 
> > instead of an older version. Chech out messages 353-355 in this 
> > groups discussion. Opening the files, making a small change and 
> > closing them again worked fine for me. I canīt recall all the 
steps 
> I 
> > had to go through (it took me some time since I think I did a 
hard 
> > reset as well. This was probably not needed though)After that the 
> > hotsyncproblems you described disappeared!
> > 
> > Good Luck
> > 
> > Anders Fogelberg
> > --- In shadow-discuss@y..., ben@s... wrote:
> > > Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
> > > To-Do database, etc. 
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new 
> > Windoze 
> > > conduit :-(
> > > 
> > > After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would 
> > crash 
> > > with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not 
change 
> > the 
> > > Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You 
know,
> > > "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I 
> tried 
> > to 
> > > uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. 
> > More 
> > > :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the 
Hotsync
> > > list and now I can 'sync again.
> > > 
> > > I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm 
IIIc 
> > and 
> > > BackupBuddy 1.31
> > > 
> > > Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
> > > 
> > > - ben

From: Roy van der Woning  <rvdw98@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:17am
Subject: Re: linking/back-up/xml files

> My question is. If you don't have backupbuddy, will shadowplan
> backup your data so you can reinstall your outlines in the event
> of a reset?

The Shadow databases have their backup bit set so yes, they should 
also be backed up by the stock Palm conduit.

> What are xml files - do they work with a specific windows
> program.

They work with all programs that support them. :) XML (eXtensible 
Markup Language) is an industry standard, general purpose format for 
data exchange between any arbitrary set of applications. XML is not 
bound to any platform (Windows, Mac, Palm, cell phone, etc).

Shadow uses XML to store its outlines on the desktop because this 
offers an easy way for third party developers to create solutions 
that can work with Shadow files.

> Will I be able to read my outlines on my desktop and edit them?

Eventually yes, when Jeff has finished the desktop application.

> Just wondering what the point of the windows conduit is?

As of this moment, it is a one-way conduit, offering the possibility 
to any interested parties to access Shadow data through an open file 
format. Later versions of Shadow will have a two-way conduit and a 
desktop application so that outlines can be created, edited and 
deleted on both desktop and handheld.

Roy.

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:15pm
Subject: Re: WOW! plus wish list...

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, John Lill wrote:

> terrific. And being able to select an existing todo and back-link it 
> to Shadow is a real plus. I can't believe that only 2 weeks ago, I 
> almost dismissed Shadow as a viable product for me! The more I use 
> it, the more powerful it gets. Oh no - am I becoming one of those 
> Shadow fanatics????

	muahuaua! First hits free ;)

> Now for my wish list - I like the option to suppress title word wrap. 
> But sometimes I want it on, to see the entire entries, and sometimes 
> I want it off, to see a more concise list. I have to select Menu-
> >List->Preferences->Opt->Suppress title word wrap. Could that option 
> be toggled on/off with a command key? Or at least with a top menu 
> pick.

	Hmm.. maybe putting it under the [V] menu would be a good idea.. a
toggle for it. I'll thjink about it and see what shadow-discusser's think.

> know that there is only icon info so when I expand all memos, I see 
> all the icon jibberish for any linked items that have icons in 
> Datebk4 and the screen looks pretty messy. Any way to hide those 
> notes?

	There is a suppress all notes option in there
somewhere. Eventually I'll add some support to hide the DB4 type stuff,
but I'm currently working on Shadow things rather than spending time
working on Shadow's code to support other apps stuff (like Action Names,
DB4, and others..)

> Thanks for a GREAT product, Jeff. Keep up the good work.

	I will :) Thanks for the support :)

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Doug Roberts  <doug@b...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:36pm
Subject: RE: Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!

Trying to link to my address book in 1.5.0 -- incredibly slow finding a name
(must have been almost 5 minutes). It took all my willpower not to reset --
during the find the palm was locked up. I'm using a IIIxe. I probably have
800 names in my address book. This must be a bug?

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Ebata [mailto:aebata@h...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:08 AM
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!


Been playing with 1.5.0...

Linking to the correct address/name when adding via the link manager seems
to work correctly now
BUT..
I've been getting fatal exceptions when trying to delete links....will
investigate further...

Aaron



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Mitchell" <support@s...>
To: <shadow-test@j...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:01 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!


>
> I like to do this through announce, but I keep finding lots of people in
> shadow-discuss but not in shadow-test.. so my apologies for the spam.
>
> There are now two editions of Shadow Plan -- a version for everyone
> (Windows, Mac, Unix, you name it), and a version enhanced for Windows
> users.
>
> Generic Edition:
> http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150gen.zip
>
> Windows Enhanced Edition:
> http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150win.zip
>
> This release features improvements all over the place, to make your time
> in Shadow Plan more valuable and productive. Get it while its hot :)
>
> An extract from the WhatsNew follows.
>
> jeff
>
> Shadow Plan 1.5.0
> -----------------
>
> Lots happening in this lastest release of Shadow Plan! Be sure to keep a
> watchful eye on your download sites or my website, as I'm hoping to
> release some Windows tools soon to translate your Shadow Plan files into
> RTF, HTML, and other useful formats!
>
> Shadow Plan 1.5.0 is another huge stride forward for Palm outliners and
> task managers. You can now link to the Address Book and MemoPad in
> addition to the ToDo and Datebook as before. You can archive old items as
> you delete them, if you like. Many facets of the application have been
> tuned to make your life easier -- Palm global Find is supported, exports
> have been improved, group management is easier. For Windows users, a first
> step towards desktop support is included in the Windows Enhanced Edition
> -- a one way backup conduit that writes its files in the industry standard
> XML format. Keep your eyes open for tools to translate the XML into RTF,
> HTML, and other useful formats making sharing and printing your data very
> easy!
>
> NEW! Windows backup conduit!
>
> NEW! Killer linking! Link to address book and memopad, and expand and
>   collapse address and memo links underneath an item right onscreen! Now
>   you can appoint people to tasks, easily illustrate who attended a
>   meeting or easily identify locations of tasks (or anything else you can
>   think of doing!) Set a program to use for jumping to these links. Have
> as
>   many links on an item as you like!
>
> NEW! Global Find now supported! (Searching through all your Shadow files
>   at once now works, and all those nifty hacks that work with Find will be
>   happy!)
>
> NEW! Make new items from existing todo and datebook items! Easily allows
>   you to create items on your desktop or from other applications, and then
>   bring them in as linked (or unlinked) Shadow task items!
>
> NEW! More list-specific options -- autolink all new items to todo, and set
>   todo linking category, among other things!
>
> NEW! Archive your items as you delete them! If you don't wish to forget
>   an item forever, just archive it! They will show up in a list called
>   __ARCHIVE__ in Unfiled. You can edit this list to your desires, too!
>
> NEW! Automaticlly saves your changes if you exit Shadow within Details
>   type windows.
>
> NEW! Drag and drop should help you more with its visual hints!
>
> NEW! Export to DOC! (and soon Import from DOC, too!). Use any of the
>   normal exporting formats, too. This should let you communicate
> effectively
>   with palm word processors, and allows you to get your data to the
>   desktop that much easier!
>
> NEW! Can now "goto" links in Action Names! (AN used to go to wrong one,
>   due to the way it works)
>
> NEW! Better keyboard and button support -- some new and also more sensible
>   shortcuts, more hardware scroll button support, etc. Arrows will move
>   the selection point up and down, or collapse/expand items
>
> NEW! Open database and XML formats! Your file operations can be a little
>   faster (after a few uses) in this version; in the future they will be
>   much faster. Further, other developers are welcome to link to and work
>   with Shadow Plan files. Maybe more wonderful tools will pop up from
>   others?
>
> NEW! General bugfixes; no more looping display on long lists; demotion and
>   promotion now move the item to smarter more useful locations in the
>   sublevels and much much more!
>
> I've probably forgotten things, too :)
>
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> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Aaron Ebata wrote:

> Been playing with 1.5.0...
> 
> Linking to the correct address/name when adding via the link manager seems
> to work correctly now
> BUT..
> I've been getting fatal exceptions when trying to delete links....will
> investigate further...

	Hey, strange! I'll keep catching up on email (go away for 4 days,
400 emails in my inbox.. ugh :P).. I'll look into it, and I'm betting
you've got more details there for me :)

		jeff

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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 2:51pm
Subject: Re: WordSmith + Shadow 1.5 == Fun

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Aaron Ebata wrote:

> It also gave me an opportunity to comment on the "pretty" formatting. Would
> it be possible to have an extra space/CR before the second level items?

	Sure thing, will do.

		jeff

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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:14pm
Subject: Re: Hoping Mitchell doesn't see this. . .

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 verxion@p... wrote:

> Jeff Mitchell wrote:
> 
> "I'm goign to release 1.5.0 in about 5 minutes.. try this out right
> away and let me know in 20 minutes if <omitted>, otherwise I'm out of
> contact for a couple of days :P"
> 
> Here's hoping he is ACTUALLY taking that break. . .

	Yep; 4 days in Vegas. Was a grand experience that was only marred
when I came home.. from 30 degrees cel in Vegas, to 2 deg cel in Canada
.. ugh :P

		jeff

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sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:21pm
Subject: Re: ToDo Completion Date

I think checking an item off sets the completion (finish) date in
Shadow. It does not set thje "target" date, and the target date is what is
used in links to ToDo. ToDo only has target date, whereas Shadow has
Target, Start, and Finish .. so thats like your problem.

	Check your finish dates (in the detail window I guess, for
now) and let me know if that clears things up. IF you need, let me know,
and I can add an option to allow you to display finish date as a optional
column (like target date)

		jeff

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 tori.rosenthal@s... wrote:

> I'm a new (and totally impressed) user to ShadowPlan. I just
> downloaded 1.5 and am getting ready to replace my 'ToDo List' with
> ShadowPlan.
> 
> I have 'Record Completion Date' set to Yes in my ToDo Preferences.
> This way the due date (finish date) is changed to the date when I
> check the item off as complete.
> 
> When I create a ToDo in Shadow, link it to my ToDo list and then check
> the item as 'complete' in Shadow, the due date/finish date does not
> get set to the current date. If I create at ToDo in Shadow, link it,
> and mark it as complete from my ToDo list, the date does updated to
> the current date (this is my current work-around).
> 
> Did I miss one of the incredibly flexible features somewhere?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
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From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:29pm
Subject: Re: Re: To-Do's

Can depend on options too, as well as filtering. All the other
items could be filtered out of view, or in 1.5.0 you can turn off some
autochecking..

		jeff

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 psvincent@m... wrote:

> Mary Ann,
> 
> If an item has multiple children, then checking off one child as 
> "done" should not mark the parent as done.  For example, I have an 
> item with 2 children.  When I mark one of them as done, the box for 
> the parent shows that the parent is half completed.
> 
> If, however, both of the children are complete, the parent SHOULD be 
> marked as complete (since all subtasks are finished).
> 
> If what you are getting deviates from this, I'm not sure how to 
> explain it.  I just double checked before posting this message, and 
> Shadow seems to work exactly as it should on this score.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., Mary Ann Chapman <chapman@f...> wrote:
> > Sorry if this is a duplicate - I'm not sure it got out on my first 
> try:
> > 
> > I'm a new user just trying to get started.  In the manual, section 
> called 
> > "List View Screen", 2. The Screen, it shows screen shots where a 
> child is 
> > checked off and the parent and other children remain unchecked.  
> when I 
> > check anything, the parent and all children check off.  What am I 
> doing wrong?
> > 
> > Mary Ann
> 
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From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 3:41pm
Subject: Re: Is there a DTD available for ShadowPlan?

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Jeff Arnfield wrote:

> I'm just getting started in XML -- Shadow will be my first real 
> introduction to it -- and having a copy of the DTD would be handy.  Is 
> it posted somewhere?

	I think a few people have built them. I don't have a
"reference" version yet, since the structure is still evolving. Its a
pretty easy one to draft.

	Check the shadow-desktop archives; a couple of lads did some
extraordinary work already..

	And if you come up with anything useful, let me know :)

		jeff

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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 4:27pm
Subject: Re: Trouble Importing Datebook and Todo Items

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 1drummer@m... wrote:

> I am thrilled to see the new feature of 'New From...' that imports from the
> datebook, however, I cannot get it to work.  I tap 'New From...' then the
> datebook tab, but the list is empty.  It tap 'pick week' and choose this
> week which is loaded with events, but still nothing in the list.  None of my
> private entries are hidden, so what gives?  Also, if I do 'New from...' and
> scroll through todos, I only see a few done todos from the previous days and
> only 1 or 2 incomplete todos when I know there are at least 20 current todos
> on my list right now.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I am using Shadow 1.5
> on a IIIx.  OS 3.1 - Any ideas?

	Sorry for my delay.. took a few days off.

	I shall investigate; I know there are some oddities with New From,
but they're difficult to pin down. There will be a incrmeental release in
a couple of weeks, once I get some fixes in and tested by the alpha gang..

		jeff

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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 4:30pm
Subject: Re: Follow a File Link "upstream"?

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 jimbirdsall@w... wrote:

> I just started playing around with the new version and its File 
> Linking capability.  I set up a file link from a task in my main file 
> to the sub task in the linked file.  I can follow this link
> downstream 
> (from the task to the subtask) just fine.  I'm wondering if there's a 
> way to go directly back (upstream) from the subtask to the main task 
> file.  So far, I can only get back by going back to the main file
> list.  Is there another way?  Thanks for any guidance.

	Currently the link is one way; I'm going to be adding a
"back" button to make navigating a little easier; in my own lists, I often
keep a link back myself.. ie: I use a shadow list as a table of contents,
to keep lists hierarchically. Each of the lists has a link to the TOC file
to let me jump back quickly.

	But yeah, a "Back" button, and a "Recent Files" listing would be
handy..

		jeff

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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:11pm
Subject: Re: Address Link minor issue

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 elfinger@v... wrote:

> First off, if I hear a response to this message in the new couple of 
> days, I'll be upset 'cause you're supposed to be taking a couple of 
> days off! But when you DO get back, I just ran into a little anomaly. 
> When you link to an address and you pick the application you want to 
> use, it only works for the first time. For example, I use eyecontact 
> as my address application and when I link to a contact to it and then 
> click on the link in Shadow, it works properly and goes to Eyecontact 
> and brings up the right contact. The second time I use the link, it 
> defaults back to the standard Palm address app. Can't figure out why.

	Hmm. Try setting the program, and then changing something in the
list (like check/uncheck), and then do the jump, and see if it works
thereafter. Perhaps setting the program doesn't cause a proper "save" in
some cases.. I shall check.

	Anyone else?

		jeff

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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:15pm
Subject: Re: Problems with linking to an address or memo

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Malcolm Firth wrote:

> Another recently 'converted' fan of shadow. Just trying out the latest
> version, but can't seem to get the link to address/memo feature
> working. When I go to the link menu and press 'add' it begins to show
> a list of addresses and then the dreaded words 'fatal error' come up
> and the visor needs to be reset. I understand (from reading the
> manual!!) that a sub-menu should come up after pressing the 'add' a
> link button, with a choice of adding either memos or addresses (as
> well as an option to choose the default address/memo programme)? That
> never appears on my machine. I've disabled all my hacks and tried, but
> still no luck. Anyone got any ideas???

	So you get a crash while it is drawing the list of addresses onto
the screen? Strange!

	I shall investigate possibilities..

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 5:21pm
Subject: Re: Re: Problems with linking to an address or memo

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Malcolm Firth wrote:

> Thanks for the steps below. I have been following these. Problem is between
> steps 2 and 3. No pop-up dialog box shows up - it immediately begins to
> import (what looks like a list of addresses) but very quickly goes to the
> 'fatal error' message!

	After you hit Add or after you try and bring up the link manager
at all?

		jeff

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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 6:31pm
Subject: Re: New user

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 AMacQueen@o... wrote:

> After 3 years with Palms, I have recently discovered Shadow & really 
> like it - it thinks the way I do, and that's quite an achievement!

	Thanks! :)

> The shortcuts seem counter-intuitive & therefore a bit difficult to 
> remember. I am using Shadow with a GoType, mostly for note-taking & 
> so use shortcuts quite a lot. Are there any mnemonics??

	Anyone else? How are the shortcuts awkward? I know there are some
shortcuts that need to exist badly, and I'm working on those. The existing
ones (in 1.5.) seem pretty good...

> Also, I am trying to load the Windows interface, but can't select an 
> account to install to. Even "select all" still gives me "0 of 0 
> accounts selected". Any ideas, please?

	You run the setup.exe program, and cannot chose any accounts?

> PS I _am_ trying to register, but Handango keeps bouncing my CC 
> details; never usually a problem.
> 
> PPS Why not ask Handango to offer Shadow on their UK expansys site, 
> as well?

	Never heard of it..

	Whats its purpose? should Shadow be on it?

		jeff

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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 6:39pm
Subject: Re: Severed links

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Roy van der Woning wrote:

> I suspect that Shadow (like DateBk4) uses the Unique ID's of ToDo 
> records to implement its linking mechanism. I am using Desktop To Go 

	Yep, sure does.

> as a conduit between the major Palm databases and Outlook 2000. From 
> conversations with a Desktop To Go developer it became clear that 
> under certain circumstances (like a restore after a cold reset) the 
> original Unique ID's of the Palm databases are not necessarily 
> retained.

	Right; theyr'e supposed to, but may not.

> The DateBk4 developer claims that the original Palm Desktop conduits 
> do preserve Unique ID's at all times but that some third party 
> conduits do not, and that this is the cause of the lost links. But 

	Right on the money.

> the Desktop To Go developer asserts that there is not a single Palm 
> requirement saying that Unique ID's should be preserved and that 
> Desktop To Go has received Platinum Certification several times 
> without any mentioning of this issue.

	Getting certification costs money. Its not hard to qualify for
it. They certainly dont' test to that level.

	Whethor or not it is correct is the question.. and I'm not
sure. I'd have to check all the standards. Certainly, it is best to
preserve as much as you can, and any conduit not preserving unique-id's
needs work ;)

> Given the fact that I'm not the only Desktop To Go user, and probably 
> also not the only one using Shadow as well, this is a potential 
> problem for all Shadow (and DateBk4) users with Desktop To Go (and 
> most likely several other third party conduits).

	If desktop to go isn't restoring things right, thats its
fault and nothign we can do about it, besides creating some evil linking
mechanism that woudl be really ugly (like using the note field to store
link information, which woudl be ugly and *incredibly* slow).

> Has this issue ever been recognized and/or researched? Is there a way 
> for me to make sure that I don't have to manually recreate all my 
> links again like I've been doing most of the day today?

	A good question.

	Other questions along the same lines which I've been thinking
about are maintainig links across imports and exports. Very difficult. But
possible..

	The short answer is no.. not much you can do. You can have two
identical todos, where the only difference is the unique-id. To link to
it, we must use the unique-id, or we miust create a unique-id system of
our own and stick it in the notes field. But the whole point is not to do
something proprietary like that, and use the built-in one, and leave the
conduits to restore things accurately.

	So.. is desktop to go doing the right thing, or the easy thing? I
don't know, either :)

	Sorry, 250 emails to go :)

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 7:08pm
Subject: Re: Conduit Issues

Ugh. No one has reported a problem with 1.5.0 conduit before. What
happened during the hotsync, exactly -- "crash", or just a "Failed" entry
in the hotsync log, or what?

	Do you have any really old shadow lists? If so, try opening them,
scrolling them, and closing therm (ie: Causing a save). Also, if you have
any shadow files with very strange filenames, try renaming
them. Sometiumes Windows has a problem with odd filenames, though Shadow
tries to cut out the ugly stuff..

		jeff

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 ben@s... wrote:

> Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
> To-Do database, etc. 
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new Windoze 
> conduit :-(
> 
> After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would crash 
> with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not change the 
> Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You know,
> "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I tried to 
> uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. More 
> :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the Hotsync
> list and now I can 'sync again.
> 
> I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm IIIc and 
> BackupBuddy 1.31
> 
> Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
> 
> - ben
> 
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 7:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: Conduit Issues

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 glacefield@v... wrote:

> I'm having the same problem. Fatal error at HotSync, can't change the 
> conduit, etc. However, the uninstall did not remove the conduit, and 
> I have no way of turning it off or removing it.

	Wow; if stuff like this happens, pleae let me know!

	If you cannot uninstall it, then just delete the ShadowPlan.dll
from the same location as your hotsync.exe; that will cause hotsync to
complain, but shoudl stoip a crash. Are you crashign, or just getting a
"failed" entry in the log?

> I'm using W98, serial cradle, HotSync 3.0.4, Palm IIIc, BB 1.40. Note 
> that this behavior occurred as soon as I installed 1.5.0, and changed 
> nothing else in my Palm. Since it appears to be the upgrade, I am 
> about to try to revert back to 1.4.0, but I am leery about doing so 
> since I think the conduit may interfere with my 1.4 data.

	Use 1.5.0, but ditch the conduit. Going back to 1.4.0 is
difficulty.

> Help!  I used to LOVE Shadow, but this new version is a pain.

	Lets get rid of that conduit. Keep me involved and we'll get you
fixed. If you still have a problem, I'll get you a little command line
tool to remove the conduit forcibly.

	Try opening/closing all your lists (after scrolling around, to
make them want to save), and make sure none of the list names have
characters in them that windows would hate.. (like slashes, for instance)

		jeff

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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 8:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: Conduit Issues

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 andersfogelberg@s... wrote:

> I had a similar problem: the hotsync process stopped dead when it 
> came to Shadow. This was when I had installed the 4.16Beta version 
> instead of an older version. Chech out messages 353-355 in this 
> groups discussion. Opening the files, making a small change and 
> closing them again worked fine for me. I canīt recall all the steps I 
> had to go through (it took me some time since I think I did a hard 
> reset as well. This was probably not needed though)After that the 
> hotsyncproblems you described disappeared!

	The 1.5.0 conduit should not have those sorts of problems :/
*sigh* :/

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: Soft Resets

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 lnewman@n... wrote:

> Three times this morning when attempting to cut and paste items across folders 
> I got this message "Data Mgr.c, Line 5162, Err Deleting rec - Reset" - 
> following which the Plam did a soft reset.  Now, I didn't lose anything but was 
> worried for amoment or two.  Is this a bug in 1.5.0?  Any comments?

	Definitely seems like a bug; someone else has mentioned somethign
along these lines, and I've never been able to reproduce it. Does it
happen every time for you, or seemingly at random? Any pattern to it? Does
it only happen with these few files? (And if so, can you send me the
files, knowing I'll purge them after studying the crash?)

	I woudl love to find this bug, but its difficult sionce I cannot
see it :/

	Does it only happen if the clip is iin "one" or "many" mode?

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:28pm
Subject: Re: linking/back-up/xml files

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Malcolm Firth wrote:

> Still can't get the address/memo linking to work. My problem is that
> the sub-menu (after pressing the 'add' button in the link menu, never
> appears. Instead, I see (for a brief second) a list of addresses
> loading, and then the 'fatal exception' screen.

	I'll investigate soon..

> However, I do have one question about the backup files for shadow
> plan. When I deleted the program from my Visor, all the data was
> deleted as well. When I reinstalled the program, I went to the shadow
> plan folder in my palm folder, to reinstall my outlines and I found
> xml files. Double clicking on these opened my internet browser, but I
> couldn't read anything except a couple lines of text. Fortunately, I
> have BackupBuddy so was able to reinstall the outline files from my
> archived folder.

	If you have any halfway recent Hotsync Manager, you shoudl have a
"Backup" folder, which should include your Shadow files in .pdb
format. The ShadowPlan directory contains them in XML format, which will
in a month or tewo allow you to reconstruct the palm-side form them, as
well as edit them on the desktop through various tools, etc.

	BackupBuddy is pretty redundant when compared to the newer hotsync
manager. Please confirm, but this is the bahviour I've built into it all..

> My question is. If you don't have backupbuddy, will shadowplan backup
> your data so you can reinstall your outlines in the event of a reset?
> What are xml files - do they work with a specific windows program.
> Will I be able to read my outlines on my desktop and edit them?

	XML is a industry standard notation system. The shadow files
should load into IE and other XML readers in a non-useful way, but there
are many XML editors which can do really neat things with them. Many
peopel who know the XML tricks can turn their shadow files into HTML pages
in seconds.. very handy! Much more is coming..

	(1-3 weeks from now, look for some Windows tools to turn the XML
files into HMTL, RTF, etc).

> Just wondering what the point of the windows conduit is?

	Its a first step; it is very useful to many people, and also tests
the foundations for the conduit, and does some backing up of data, and
clearing up junk left on the palm and such. Its not needed, but is very
handy at times,a nd for those XML folks. But in 1-3 weeks it'll get realy
useful :)

		jeff

--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: Conduit Issues

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 glacefield@v... wrote:

> Yep, I had some list names with invalid Windows characters. I changed 
> them, resynced, and voila! everything worked!  I'll be using 1.5 now, 
> thanks!

	Great. I'll have to see whats gong on wit bad filenames..

> One more thing...did the "tags" Jeff referred to in message 75 as 
> being planned for 1.5 ever make it into the release? If they did, I 
> can't find them. Do I need to anticipate them in a future release?

	1.6 or 1.7 I think; I put them off to favour working on more
desktop support..

		jeff

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
> 
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., easy-123@e... wrote:
> > I would suggest you check out the messages that follow message 355, 
> > say to at least message 362. I had the problem these messages 
> > describe which was also killed my hotsync.
> > 
> > stan
> > 
> > --- In shadow-discuss@y..., andersfogelberg@s... wrote:
> > > I had a similar problem: the hotsync process stopped dead when it 
> > > came to Shadow. This was when I had installed the 4.16Beta 
> version 
> > > instead of an older version. Chech out messages 353-355 in this 
> > > groups discussion. Opening the files, making a small change and 
> > > closing them again worked fine for me. I canīt recall all the 
> steps 
> > I 
> > > had to go through (it took me some time since I think I did a 
> hard 
> > > reset as well. This was probably not needed though)After that the 
> > > hotsyncproblems you described disappeared!
> > > 
> > > Good Luck
> > > 
> > > Anders Fogelberg
> > > --- In shadow-discuss@y..., ben@s... wrote:
> > > > Love 1.5.0. Love the new Linking Manager, the importing from the
> > > > To-Do database, etc. 
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately, I'm having all kinds of problems with the new 
> > > Windoze 
> > > > conduit :-(
> > > > 
> > > > After install,  I could no longer complete a Hotsync (it would 
> > > crash 
> > > > with an error from the Shadow conduit). Also, I could not 
> change 
> > > the 
> > > > Shadow Conduit behavior in the Hotsync "Custom" dialog. (You 
> know,
> > > > "Do Nothing", "Synchronize the Files", etc.) Finally, when I 
> > tried 
> > > to 
> > > > uninstalling Shadow, I got an "Error during Uninstall" message. 
> > > More 
> > > > :-(  The uninstall did remove the Shadow conduit from the 
> Hotsync
> > > > list and now I can 'sync again.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm using Win98, a serial cable dock, HotSync 3.1.1, a Palm 
> IIIc 
> > > and 
> > > > BackupBuddy 1.31
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone else having these kinds of problems?
> > > > 
> > > > - ben
> 
> 
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 10:39pm
Subject: RE: Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Doug Roberts wrote:

> Trying to link to my address book in 1.5.0 -- incredibly slow finding a name
> (must have been almost 5 minutes). It took all my willpower not to reset --
> during the find the palm was locked up. I'm using a IIIxe. I probably have
> 800 names in my address book. This must be a bug?

	Sort of; it works well if you don't have a massive pile of
addresses. If you have >1000 it can get very slow. I may remove the find
widget and replace it with a scroll bar, since its a much faster way to
get around a list. Palms just aren't good at searching like it does now..

		jeff


> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Ebata [mailto:aebata@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:08 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> 
> 
> Been playing with 1.5.0...
> 
> Linking to the correct address/name when adding via the link manager seems
> to work correctly now
> BUT..
> I've been getting fatal exceptions when trying to delete links....will
> investigate further...
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Mitchell" <support@s...>
> To: <shadow-test@j...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:01 PM
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> 
> 
> >
> > I like to do this through announce, but I keep finding lots of people in
> > shadow-discuss but not in shadow-test.. so my apologies for the spam.
> >
> > There are now two editions of Shadow Plan -- a version for everyone
> > (Windows, Mac, Unix, you name it), and a version enhanced for Windows
> > users.
> >
> > Generic Edition:
> > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150gen.zip
> >
> > Windows Enhanced Edition:
> > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150win.zip
> >
> > This release features improvements all over the place, to make your time
> > in Shadow Plan more valuable and productive. Get it while its hot :)
> >
> > An extract from the WhatsNew follows.
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > Shadow Plan 1.5.0
> > -----------------
> >
> > Lots happening in this lastest release of Shadow Plan! Be sure to keep a
> > watchful eye on your download sites or my website, as I'm hoping to
> > release some Windows tools soon to translate your Shadow Plan files into
> > RTF, HTML, and other useful formats!
> >
> > Shadow Plan 1.5.0 is another huge stride forward for Palm outliners and
> > task managers. You can now link to the Address Book and MemoPad in
> > addition to the ToDo and Datebook as before. You can archive old items as
> > you delete them, if you like. Many facets of the application have been
> > tuned to make your life easier -- Palm global Find is supported, exports
> > have been improved, group management is easier. For Windows users, a first
> > step towards desktop support is included in the Windows Enhanced Edition
> > -- a one way backup conduit that writes its files in the industry standard
> > XML format. Keep your eyes open for tools to translate the XML into RTF,
> > HTML, and other useful formats making sharing and printing your data very
> > easy!
> >
> > NEW! Windows backup conduit!
> >
> > NEW! Killer linking! Link to address book and memopad, and expand and
> >   collapse address and memo links underneath an item right onscreen! Now
> >   you can appoint people to tasks, easily illustrate who attended a
> >   meeting or easily identify locations of tasks (or anything else you can
> >   think of doing!) Set a program to use for jumping to these links. Have
> > as
> >   many links on an item as you like!
> >
> > NEW! Global Find now supported! (Searching through all your Shadow files
> >   at once now works, and all those nifty hacks that work with Find will be
> >   happy!)
> >
> > NEW! Make new items from existing todo and datebook items! Easily allows
> >   you to create items on your desktop or from other applications, and then
> >   bring them in as linked (or unlinked) Shadow task items!
> >
> > NEW! More list-specific options -- autolink all new items to todo, and set
> >   todo linking category, among other things!
> >
> > NEW! Archive your items as you delete them! If you don't wish to forget
> >   an item forever, just archive it! They will show up in a list called
> >   __ARCHIVE__ in Unfiled. You can edit this list to your desires, too!
> >
> > NEW! Automaticlly saves your changes if you exit Shadow within Details
> >   type windows.
> >
> > NEW! Drag and drop should help you more with its visual hints!
> >
> > NEW! Export to DOC! (and soon Import from DOC, too!). Use any of the
> >   normal exporting formats, too. This should let you communicate
> > effectively
> >   with palm word processors, and allows you to get your data to the
> >   desktop that much easier!
> >
> > NEW! Can now "goto" links in Action Names! (AN used to go to wrong one,
> >   due to the way it works)
> >
> > NEW! Better keyboard and button support -- some new and also more sensible
> >   shortcuts, more hardware scroll button support, etc. Arrows will move
> >   the selection point up and down, or collapse/expand items
> >
> > NEW! Open database and XML formats! Your file operations can be a little
> >   faster (after a few uses) in this version; in the future they will be
> >   much faster. Further, other developers are welcome to link to and work
> >   with Shadow Plan files. Maybe more wonderful tools will pop up from
> >   others?
> >
> > NEW! General bugfixes; no more looping display on long lists; demotion and
> >   promotion now move the item to smarter more useful locations in the
> >   sublevels and much much more!
> >
> > I've probably forgotten things, too :)
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> >
> >
> >
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> > shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
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> 
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_

From: Ken Gordon  <ksg@t...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 11:04pm
Subject: RE: Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!

A thought - how does CESD do it in Datebook?

Touching the Link button in DateBk4 takes you directly to the list of names,
and a search is executed very quickly (at least compared to 1.5.0).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> Sent: 2001, April, Monday 4:39 PM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Doug Roberts wrote:
>
> > Trying to link to my address book in 1.5.0 -- incredibly slow
> finding a name
> > (must have been almost 5 minutes). It took all my willpower not
> to reset --
> > during the find the palm was locked up. I'm using a IIIxe. I
> probably have
> > 800 names in my address book. This must be a bug?
>
> 	Sort of; it works well if you don't have a massive pile of
> addresses. If you have >1000 it can get very slow. I may remove the find
> widget and replace it with a scroll bar, since its a much faster way to
> get around a list. Palms just aren't good at searching like it does now..
>
> 		jeff
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Ebata [mailto:aebata@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:08 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> >
> >
> > Been playing with 1.5.0...
> >
> > Linking to the correct address/name when adding via the link
> manager seems
> > to work correctly now
> > BUT..
> > I've been getting fatal exceptions when trying to delete links....will
> > investigate further...
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Mitchell" <support@s...>
> > To: <shadow-test@j...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:01 PM
> > Subject: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I like to do this through announce, but I keep finding lots
> of people in
> > > shadow-discuss but not in shadow-test.. so my apologies for the spam.
> > >
> > > There are now two editions of Shadow Plan -- a version for everyone
> > > (Windows, Mac, Unix, you name it), and a version enhanced for Windows
> > > users.
> > >
> > > Generic Edition:
> > > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150gen.zip
> > >
> > > Windows Enhanced Edition:
> > > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150win.zip
> > >
> > > This release features improvements all over the place, to
> make your time
> > > in Shadow Plan more valuable and productive. Get it while its hot :)
> > >
> > > An extract from the WhatsNew follows.
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
> > > Shadow Plan 1.5.0
> > > -----------------
> > >
> > > Lots happening in this lastest release of Shadow Plan! Be
> sure to keep a
> > > watchful eye on your download sites or my website, as I'm hoping to
> > > release some Windows tools soon to translate your Shadow Plan
> files into
> > > RTF, HTML, and other useful formats!
> > >
> > > Shadow Plan 1.5.0 is another huge stride forward for Palm
> outliners and
> > > task managers. You can now link to the Address Book and MemoPad in
> > > addition to the ToDo and Datebook as before. You can archive
> old items as
> > > you delete them, if you like. Many facets of the application have been
> > > tuned to make your life easier -- Palm global Find is
> supported, exports
> > > have been improved, group management is easier. For Windows
> users, a first
> > > step towards desktop support is included in the Windows
> Enhanced Edition
> > > -- a one way backup conduit that writes its files in the
> industry standard
> > > XML format. Keep your eyes open for tools to translate the
> XML into RTF,
> > > HTML, and other useful formats making sharing and printing
> your data very
> > > easy!
> > >
> > > NEW! Windows backup conduit!
> > >
> > > NEW! Killer linking! Link to address book and memopad, and expand and
> > >   collapse address and memo links underneath an item right
> onscreen! Now
> > >   you can appoint people to tasks, easily illustrate who attended a
> > >   meeting or easily identify locations of tasks (or anything
> else you can
> > >   think of doing!) Set a program to use for jumping to these
> links. Have
> > > as
> > >   many links on an item as you like!
> > >
> > > NEW! Global Find now supported! (Searching through all your
> Shadow files
> > >   at once now works, and all those nifty hacks that work with
> Find will be
> > >   happy!)
> > >
> > > NEW! Make new items from existing todo and datebook items!
> Easily allows
> > >   you to create items on your desktop or from other
> applications, and then
> > >   bring them in as linked (or unlinked) Shadow task items!
> > >
> > > NEW! More list-specific options -- autolink all new items to
> todo, and set
> > >   todo linking category, among other things!
> > >
> > > NEW! Archive your items as you delete them! If you don't wish
> to forget
> > >   an item forever, just archive it! They will show up in a list called
> > >   __ARCHIVE__ in Unfiled. You can edit this list to your desires, too!
> > >
> > > NEW! Automaticlly saves your changes if you exit Shadow within Details
> > >   type windows.
> > >
> > > NEW! Drag and drop should help you more with its visual hints!
> > >
> > > NEW! Export to DOC! (and soon Import from DOC, too!). Use any of the
> > >   normal exporting formats, too. This should let you communicate
> > > effectively
> > >   with palm word processors, and allows you to get your data to the
> > >   desktop that much easier!
> > >
> > > NEW! Can now "goto" links in Action Names! (AN used to go to
> wrong one,
> > >   due to the way it works)
> > >
> > > NEW! Better keyboard and button support -- some new and also
> more sensible
> > >   shortcuts, more hardware scroll button support, etc. Arrows
> will move
> > >   the selection point up and down, or collapse/expand items
> > >
> > > NEW! Open database and XML formats! Your file operations can
> be a little
> > >   faster (after a few uses) in this version; in the future
> they will be
> > >   much faster. Further, other developers are welcome to link
> to and work
> > >   with Shadow Plan files. Maybe more wonderful tools will pop up from
> > >   others?
> > >
> > > NEW! General bugfixes; no more looping display on long lists;
> demotion and
> > >   promotion now move the item to smarter more useful locations in the
> > >   sublevels and much much more!
> > >
> > > I've probably forgotten things, too :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> > > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> > >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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From: Jeff Mitchell  <support@s...>
Date: Mon Apr 2, 2001 11:16pm
Subject: RE: Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Ken Gordon wrote:

> A thought - how does CESD do it in Datebook?
> 
> Touching the Link button in DateBk4 takes you directly to the list of names,
> and a search is executed very quickly (at least compared to 1.5.0).

	Tell me how to do it in DB4 and I'll take a look.

	He may be depending on certain behaiours Iv'e found not to always
hold. Perhaps they hodl well enough fo DB4, which is plenty good enough
for me ;) (I'm being paanoid right now, and not depending on external
indexing or making assumptions about sort ordering or the like.)

		jeff

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> > Sent: 2001, April, Monday 4:39 PM
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Doug Roberts wrote:
> >
> > > Trying to link to my address book in 1.5.0 -- incredibly slow
> > finding a name
> > > (must have been almost 5 minutes). It took all my willpower not
> > to reset --
> > > during the find the palm was locked up. I'm using a IIIxe. I
> > probably have
> > > 800 names in my address book. This must be a bug?
> >
> > 	Sort of; it works well if you don't have a massive pile of
> > addresses. If you have >1000 it can get very slow. I may remove the find
> > widget and replace it with a scroll bar, since its a much faster way to
> > get around a list. Palms just aren't good at searching like it does now..
> >
> > 		jeff
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aaron Ebata [mailto:aebata@h...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:08 AM
> > > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> > >
> > >
> > > Been playing with 1.5.0...
> > >
> > > Linking to the correct address/name when adding via the link
> > manager seems
> > > to work correctly now
> > > BUT..
> > > I've been getting fatal exceptions when trying to delete links....will
> > > investigate further...
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Mitchell" <support@s...>
> > > To: <shadow-test@j...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:01 PM
> > > Subject: [shadow-discuss] Shadow Plan 1.5.0 Released!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I like to do this through announce, but I keep finding lots
> > of people in
> > > > shadow-discuss but not in shadow-test.. so my apologies for the spam.
> > > >
> > > > There are now two editions of Shadow Plan -- a version for everyone
> > > > (Windows, Mac, Unix, you name it), and a version enhanced for Windows
> > > > users.
> > > >
> > > > Generic Edition:
> > > > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150gen.zip
> > > >
> > > > Windows Enhanced Edition:
> > > > http://www.codejedi.com/shadowplan/binaries/shadow150win.zip
> > > >
> > > > This release features improvements all over the place, to
> > make your time
> > > > in Shadow Plan more valuable and productive. Get it while its hot :)
> > > >
> > > > An extract from the WhatsNew follows.
> > > >
> > > > jeff
> > > >
> > > > Shadow Plan 1.5.0
> > > > -----------------
> > > >
> > > > Lots happening in this lastest release of Shadow Plan! Be
> > sure to keep a
> > > > watchful eye on your download sites or my website, as I'm hoping to
> > > > release some Windows tools soon to translate your Shadow Plan
> > files into
> > > > RTF, HTML, and other useful formats!
> > > >
> > > > Shadow Plan 1.5.0 is another huge stride forward for Palm
> > outliners and
> > > > task managers. You can now link to the Address Book and MemoPad in
> > > > addition to the ToDo and Datebook as before. You can archive
> > old items as
> > > > you delete them, if you like. Many facets of the application have been
> > > > tuned to make your life easier -- Palm global Find is
> > supported, exports
> > > > have been improved, group management is easier. For Windows
> > users, a first
> > > > step towards desktop support is included in the Windows
> > Enhanced Edition
> > > > -- a one way backup conduit that writes its files in the
> > industry standard
> > > > XML format. Keep your eyes open for tools to translate the
> > XML into RTF,
> > > > HTML, and other useful formats making sharing and printing
> > your data very
> > > > easy!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Windows backup conduit!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Killer linking! Link to address book and memopad, and expand and
> > > >   collapse address and memo links underneath an item right
> > onscreen! Now
> > > >   you can appoint people to tasks, easily illustrate who attended a
> > > >   meeting or easily identify locations of tasks (or anything
> > else you can
> > > >   think of doing!) Set a program to use for jumping to these
> > links. Have
> > > > as
> > > >   many links on an item as you like!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Global Find now supported! (Searching through all your
> > Shadow files
> > > >   at once now works, and all those nifty hacks that work with
> > Find will be
> > > >   happy!)
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Make new items from existing todo and datebook items!
> > Easily allows
> > > >   you to create items on your desktop or from other
> > applications, and then
> > > >   bring them in as linked (or unlinked) Shadow task items!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! More list-specific options -- autolink all new items to
> > todo, and set
> > > >   todo linking category, among other things!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Archive your items as you delete them! If you don't wish
> > to forget
> > > >   an item forever, just archive it! They will show up in a list called
> > > >   __ARCHIVE__ in Unfiled. You can edit this list to your desires, too!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Automaticlly saves your changes if you exit Shadow within Details
> > > >   type windows.
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Drag and drop should help you more with its visual hints!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Export to DOC! (and soon Import from DOC, too!). Use any of the
> > > >   normal exporting formats, too. This should let you communicate
> > > > effectively
> > > >   with palm word processors, and allows you to get your data to the
> > > >   desktop that much easier!
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Can now "goto" links in Action Names! (AN used to go to
> > wrong one,
> > > >   due to the way it works)
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Better keyboard and button support -- some new and also
> > more sensible
> > > >   shortcuts, more hardware scroll button support, etc. Arrows
> > will move
> > > >   the selection point up and down, or collapse/expand items
> > > >
> > > > NEW! Open database and XML formats! Your file operations can
> > be a little
> > > >   faster (after a few uses) in this version; in the future
> > they will be
> > > >   much faster. Further, other developers are welcome to link
> > to and work
> > > >   with Shadow Plan files. Maybe more wonderful tools will pop up from
> > > >   others?
> > > >
> > > > NEW! General bugfixes; no more looping display on long lists;
> > demotion and
> > > >   promotion now move the item to smarter more useful locations in the
> > > >   sublevels and much much more!
> > > >
> > > > I've probably forgotten th