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| 4401 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 0:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: New From problems?
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, kenclatham wrote:
> I *hate* this... a private, Personal category, appointment on
> March 11 did not show up! Still working with all builtins and not
> having started DBK4 *at all*, I opened DateBook. The record was
> there!
>
> Worse yet, none of my repeats showed up! Now, just maybe, you did
> *this* on purpose, 'cause, after all, where would you jump to?
It could be the repeats throwing things off; they're a little
weirdly done, so it might be throwing my counts off or something.
> Do you know of any tools to thoroughly check the builtin DBs for
> errors? Although I've never noticed *any* problems *ever*...
Don't sweat it. New From is reasonably complex and there is likely
an issue with it. Lets check there first before you get paranoid :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4402 |
From: awd3034 <awd3034@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 0:52pm
Subject: Newbie help--to do's
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Thank you for your kindness in offering to help.
I hope to use Shadow as a project manager. The project has several
subprojects, and several people to whom tasks are assigned. I want
to be able to search by project (what taks need to be done on project
1?) and by person (What tasks are assigned to John Smith?).
I have tried assigning a top-level line for each subproject, that
works easily. But how do I assign tasks to an individual in a way
that allows me to search by that person? I tried linking each task
to an addressbook entry, but then I can't figure out how to search on
that individual's name.
Given how powerful Shadow seems to be, what am I missing on this?
Awd
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| 4403 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Re: More New From problems
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, rvanderwoning wrote:
> BTW, I was doing a global find yesterday and got a match in one of my
> Shadow lists. When I followed that match, it brought me to the right
> list, and the match had been highlighted, but way out of sight. I had
> to scroll all the way through my list to see it. Could you make that
> match appear somewhere at the middle of the screen? Also, I noticed
It should; I think I found an oddity that could sometimes occur,
before 2.0 or 2.1. Try 2.1 to be sure.
> that the filter I had defined for that list was no longer active
> which effectively tripled the visible size of the list and made it
> much harder to navigate through. When I opened the list from Shadow
Since the item could be filtered, I have Shadow release the filter
on Find based loads.. keeps things a little cleaner for me, and guarantees
you see thigs for you :)
> directly, the filter does kick in. Can you also do this for when a
> list is accessed through the global find function?
Do what? Center on find? It should.
> P.S.: concerning the original cycling issue, do you think that this
> could be an OS bug or is it still something Shadow-related? And even
> if it's an OS bug, can you work around it? It seems to me that if you
> pick a week, you want to see all todo's starting from the beginning
> of that week, not an arbitrary other day, depending on how many times
> you select it.
I think its an OS feature that just doesn't happen to apply to
us. I'm not sure it can be disabled. I'll have to look into it :/
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4404 |
From: Samuel J. Radcliffe <samr@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:03pm
Subject: RE: Newbie help--to do's
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You're missing tags.
This is a feature Jeff has planned for the future. You will be able to tag
each item in a list with one or more fields (e.g. person to whom task is
assigned), and then filter (and sort?) by the tag fields. Did I get that
right Jeff?
...Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: awd3034 [mailto:awd3034@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:53 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Newbie help--to do's
>
>
> Thank you for your kindness in offering to help.
>
> I hope to use Shadow as a project manager. The project has several
> subprojects, and several people to whom tasks are assigned. I want
> to be able to search by project (what taks need to be done on project
> 1?) and by person (What tasks are assigned to John Smith?).
>
> I have tried assigning a top-level line for each subproject, that
> works easily. But how do I assign tasks to an individual in a way
> that allows me to search by that person? I tried linking each task
> to an addressbook entry, but then I can't figure out how to search on
> that individual's name.
>
> Given how powerful Shadow seems to be, what am I missing on this?
>
> Awd
>
>
>
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>
>
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| 4405 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:06pm
Subject: RE: "New From" doesn't import *private* entries !
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Franz-Josef Knelangen wrote:
> > I *hate* this... a private, Personal category, appointment on
> > March 11 did not show up! Still working with all builtins and not
> > having started DBK4 *at all*, I opened DateBook. The record was
> > there!
>
> I think you got it: After changing some entries not showing up from private
> to normal they do show up next time.
>
> I didn't find an option "don't import private records" in shadow so I would
> think this is really a hidden feature. Jeff: if you correct this: it would
> be a *good* idea to make this a toggle [if it already exists I hope s.o.
> points me in the right direction ...]
Ah yes; yeah, some OS routines handle protected records
differently.. I might be messing it up somewhere. If you set your device
to unlocked, does everythign work fine?
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4406 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Newbie help--to do's
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, awd3034 wrote:
> I hope to use Shadow as a project manager. The project has several
> subprojects, and several people to whom tasks are assigned. I want
> to be able to search by project (what taks need to be done on project
> 1?) and by person (What tasks are assigned to John Smith?).
A tough one.
> I have tried assigning a top-level line for each subproject, that
> works easily. But how do I assign tasks to an individual in a way
> that allows me to search by that person? I tried linking each task
> to an addressbook entry, but then I can't figure out how to search on
> that individual's name.
>
> Given how powerful Shadow seems to be, what am I missing on this?
I am intending on adding a mega feature to let you do exactly this
sort of thing. However, I've justy not had time to add it in..
I could add an option to the Shadow find system, to let it scan
address links (just like there is an option to scan notes). That could be
slow, looking up each of the links, but it shoudl be okay for lists that
aren't gigantic.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4407 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:13pm
Subject: RE: Newbie help--to do's
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Samuel J. Radcliffe wrote:
> You're missing tags.
>
> This is a feature Jeff has planned for the future. You will be able to tag
> each item in a list with one or more fields (e.g. person to whom task is
> assigned), and then filter (and sort?) by the tag fields. Did I get that
> right Jeff?
*hint* *jab* :)
Exactly right. Sooner rather than later, too.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4408 |
From: rvanderwoning <rvanderwoning@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:14pm
Subject: Re: More New From problems
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, rvanderwoning wrote:
>
> > BTW, I was doing a global find yesterday and got a match in
> one of my Shadow lists. When I followed that match, it brought
> me to the right list, and the match had been highlighted, but
> way out of sight. I had to scroll all the way through my list
> to see it. Could you make that match appear somewhere at the
> middle of the screen? Also, I noticed
>
> It should; I think I found an oddity that could sometimes
> occur, before 2.0 or 2.1. Try 2.1 to be sure.
I do have 2.1 so there might be something else going on. I just tried
deactivating all my hacks but the result was the same. I enter the
list at about half a screen below the bottom of the list. In other
words, the list is scrolled beyond the point that Shadow would
normally let me go. When I scroll up, I see the highlighted item.
In case it matters: I have an m505 with OS 4.0.
> Since the item could be filtered, I have Shadow release
> the filter on Find based loads.. keeps things a little cleaner
> for me, and guarantees you see thigs for you :)
Ummm... yes, that makes sense to me. Good thinking. :)
> I think its an OS feature that just doesn't happen to apply
> to us. I'm not sure it can be disabled. I'll have to look into
> it :/
I'm not sure if the Palm OS has the proper date/time functions for
this (specifically a day-of-the-week function), but perhaps you could
determine the starting date of the week returned by the date picker
yourself? For example, if the date picker returns a Wednesday, you
could have the New From dialog use the preceding Monday (or Sunday,
based on your preferences) instead. Would that help?
Roy.
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| 4409 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:21pm
Subject: Re: Re: More New From problems
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, rvanderwoning wrote:
> I'm not sure if the Palm OS has the proper date/time functions for
> this (specifically a day-of-the-week function), but perhaps you could
> determine the starting date of the week returned by the date picker
> yourself? For example, if the date picker returns a Wednesday, you
> could have the New From dialog use the preceding Monday (or Sunday,
> based on your preferences) instead. Would that help?
Thats pretty much what I'll be building alright. I just need to
look up where the beginning of the week preference is stored in the OS and
go from there.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4410 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 1:46pm
Subject: jog dial.. push in list?
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When you're in a list, and an item is selected, and you push the
jog dial.. which should happen:
1) Item Details is pulled up
2) Item Details is pulled up, or mini editor, depending on your
pref?
(ie: Is the jog dial analagous to hitting Details button, or
double-tapping?)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4411 |
From: Russ & Ling Nero <rnlnero@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:25pm
Subject: Re: jog dial.. push in list?
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I'd like to see it pull up Details. If I'm planning to edit the item text,
I'll already have my stylus out and would double-tap. I think I'd use the
jog dial to pull up Details to look at all the other attributes of the item.
Hmm...or if you go with what the pref says, and pushing jog dial pulls up
mini editor, maybe pushing jog dial again pulls up Details. I think double
tapping is easier than double pushing, though.
Yeah, I'd like to see it pull up Details.
Ling
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] jog dial.. push in list?
>
> When you're in a list, and an item is selected, and you push the
> jog dial.. which should happen:
>
> 1) Item Details is pulled up
>
> 2) Item Details is pulled up, or mini editor, depending on your
> pref?
>
> (ie: Is the jog dial analagous to hitting Details button, or
> double-tapping?)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
>
>
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| 4412 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:27pm
Subject: Re: jog dial.. push in list?
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Russ & Ling Nero wrote:
> I'd like to see it pull up Details. If I'm planning to edit the item text,
> I'll already have my stylus out and would double-tap. I think I'd use the
> jog dial to pull up Details to look at all the other attributes of the item.
> Hmm...or if you go with what the pref says, and pushing jog dial pulls up
> mini editor, maybe pushing jog dial again pulls up Details. I think double
> tapping is easier than double pushing, though.
>
> Yeah, I'd like to see it pull up Details.
OKay. The jog dial stuff is mostly following your recommendation
from a few days aog, so I'll go with you this time :)
Ought release in a bit; worked my brains out last night.Hopefully
you can test it today :)
jeff
>
> Ling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] jog dial.. push in list?
>
>
> >
> > When you're in a list, and an item is selected, and you push the
> > jog dial.. which should happen:
> >
> > 1) Item Details is pulled up
> >
> > 2) Item Details is pulled up, or mini editor, depending on your
> > pref?
> >
> > (ie: Is the jog dial analagous to hitting Details button, or
> > double-tapping?)
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> >
> >
> >
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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4413 |
From: ::.jay.west <email@j...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:34pm
Subject: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
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Hi there,
I have been doing some experiments with using MegaWiki to jump
back to a Shadow list through Shadow's new feature of appending the
originating file name to the todo's note field. MegaWiki is a popular and
free hack that can be configured to recognise certain bracketing tags as
hyperlinks to any file in any database on your Palm. Shadow's origin note
format of putting triple square brackets around the file name is *almost*
perfect for this use.
Shadow's format is [[[Shadow: File Name]]]
In my particular case I have discovered:
1) You can't use [ ] as MegaWiki's link tags for Shadow because it seems to
be trying the match a database in Shadow that starts with "Shadow: "
Example: [Shadow: File Name]
2) You can't use : ] because Shadow's format adds a space after the colon
and before the actual file name and MegaWiki ignores this as a link. There
must be no space between the tags and the link name.
I tried removing the space and the link works perfectly.
Example: [Shadow:File Name]
Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly" checkbox in the
prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note origin? That way
all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple as tapping on
the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag. MegaaWiki
then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding list, not just the
last list you had open.
Very cool.
j.
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| 4414 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly" checkbox in the
> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note origin? That way
> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
>
> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple as tapping on
> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag. MegaaWiki
> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding list, not just the
> last list you had open.
Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk to the real
note, when Shadow opens it up :)
I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if that
would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a little
thing..
You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4415 |
From: Samuel J. Radcliffe <samr@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 3:01pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
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What happens when the todo note contains more context than just the
filename, e.g. [[[Shadow: Filename>parent]]] ?
...Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ::.jay.west [mailto:email@j...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:34 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
>
>
> Hi there,
> I have been doing some experiments with using MegaWiki to jump
> back to a Shadow list through Shadow's new feature of appending the
> originating file name to the todo's note field. MegaWiki is a popular and
> free hack that can be configured to recognise certain bracketing tags as
> hyperlinks to any file in any database on your Palm. Shadow's origin note
> format of putting triple square brackets around the file name is *almost*
> perfect for this use.
>
> Shadow's format is [[[Shadow: File Name]]]
>
> In my particular case I have discovered:
>
> 1) You can't use [ ] as MegaWiki's link tags for Shadow because
> it seems to
> be trying the match a database in Shadow that starts with "Shadow: "
> Example: [Shadow: File Name]
>
> 2) You can't use : ] because Shadow's format adds a space after the colon
> and before the actual file name and MegaWiki ignores this as a link. There
> must be no space between the tags and the link name.
>
> I tried removing the space and the link works perfectly.
> Example: [Shadow:File Name]
>
>
> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly" checkbox in the
> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note
> origin? That way
> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
>
> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple as tapping on
> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag. MegaaWiki
> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding list,
> not just the
> last list you had open.
>
> Very cool.
>
> j.
>
>
>
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>
>
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| 4416 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Clie FontHack123 setup...
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Just so everyone is aware, I setup faonthack for datebook the same as I did
for Shadow, and it crashes (thank God for Crash hack). I think the problem
is using the symbol fonts, and not having a symbol for untimed apptmnts.
Just wanted to share that in case anyone else needs it.
Scott
"Kevin
Giberson" To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
<kevin@g... cc:
on.net> Subject: [shadow-discuss] Clie FontHack123 setup...
02/26/2002
05:36 PM
Please
respond to
shadow-discus
s
yes Jen, i use the san 16 from Lubak's site on both programs, and it work
great. then also use the one at the very bottom of his choices for
symbols...the note symbol, alarm symbol, checkboxes, etc...much crisper.
the setup for it is just as indicated on the site...for the symbols, off to
the left it shows which symbols to match to the named symbol font.
http://www.domino.sk/lubak/
for any trying to figure it out per program, basically like this...
go into the plus symbol on your font hack to open fonthack123. then at the
top, choose the application you want to affect. then you must change
several of the fonts listed below the line for that program to apply to
that program. for instance, go below the line and click on Standard, which
then pops up above the line where you then click on the little arrow to the
right, scroll down to find the font you want to use as standard, click on
it. then go below the line again to choose HrStandard, it pops at the top,
click the arrow and scroll to find the font you choose. if you choose a
specific one, at the site lubak shows which to choose for standard, and
which for high res.
then, you do the symbol font. look at the site and to the left for the
picture of what the font looks like for the one it should be...back to
choosing below the line in the setup again, for instance first clicking
Symbol, which then pops at the top, click the arrow to the right, and
scroll down to choose the boxes that match the ones shown on lubak's site
picture. next choose Symbol 11, then Symbol 7, then down to HrSymbol,
HrSymbol 11, then HrSymbol 7, again clicking the arrow to the right each
time, and clicking down to choose the symbol picture to match the font
number as lubak's picture demonstrates. then click Saveexit, go to the
program, and WOW!
Any other font types/names anyone has noted that must be used or changed in
certain programs to make things look better?
Enjoy,
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: PocketGoddess
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
Which symbols? I haven't been following this discussion too closely
since I have a 505, but I have been playing around with FontHack. Has
anyone found a set of fonts that works well with AN and Shadow on that
device??
Jen
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| 4417 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: Re: jog dial.. push in list?
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I vote for details, but I could live with either.
Scott
Jeff Mitchell
<support@s... To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
eton.org> cc:
Subject: [shadow-discuss] jog dial.. push in list?
02/27/2002
07:46 AM
Please
respond to
shadow-discus
s
When you're in a list, and an item is selected, and you push the
jog dial.. which should happen:
1) Item Details is pulled up
2) Item Details is pulled up, or mini editor, depending on your
pref?
(ie: Is the jog dial analagous to hitting Details button, or
double-tapping?)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4418 |
From: ::.jay.west <email@j...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:13pm
Subject: Re: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
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Tested and confirmed Jeff, clicking on the note text of [[[List Name]]] does
jump you straight to Shadow and opens the corresponding "List Name" file. It
has no problems with any spaces in the file name just a space between the
link tags and the actual file name.
I know the issues of the "Shadow:" pre-text in the note came up originally
where you made a strong case for it. Another less obtrusive option could be
to simply remove the space after the colon like [[[Shadow:List Name]]] that
way you could specify the Shadow link tag as being :and] instead of [and].
This option has also been tested and works.
Samuel J. Radcliffe asked what would happen if you had the parent also
listed in the origin tag like [[[Shadow:List Name >parent]]] In this case
you would also need to setup a link tag in MegaWiki for [and> to be
recognised as a link back to Shadow. You would then need to remember to only
tap on the file name and not the parent. The only trouble with this right
now is that Shadow adds a space before the > If the origin note was changed
to read [[[Shadow:List Name>parent]]] without spaces before or after the
unique tags this idea would be airtight.
I am working both sides of the case here between the Shadow and MegaWiki
lists trying to find a solution. I appreciate this only being viable if
enough Shadow users are interested.
j.
> From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:45:46 -0500 (EST)
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
>
>> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly" checkbox in the
>> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note origin? That way
>> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
>>
>> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple as tapping on
>> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag. MegaaWiki
>> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding list, not just the
>> last list you had open.
>
> Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
> seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk to the real
> note, when Shadow opens it up :)
>
> I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if that
> would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a little
> thing..
>
> You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
>
>
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| 4419 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:15pm
Subject: Re: jog dial.. push in list?
|
| |
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 smasters@a... wrote:
> I vote for details, but I could live with either.
I got a few quick replies, so I set it for Details (no mini
editor). We can change it later if need be.
jeff
--
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circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4420 |
From: Samuel J. Radcliffe <samr@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:24pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
| |
Count me in. It looks like a real winner, greatly increasing the value of
the shadow context in the todo note. I don't know why anyone should complain
about losing "Shadow: ". If you know shadow and linking, you immediately
recognize that what you're looking at is shadow context because of the
"[[[ ]]]". Of course I was one of the original arguers against the inclusion
of "Shadow: ", and I lost that one ;-)
...Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ::.jay.west [mailto:email@j...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:14 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
>
>
> Tested and confirmed Jeff, clicking on the note text of [[[List
> Name]]] does
> jump you straight to Shadow and opens the corresponding "List
> Name" file. It
> has no problems with any spaces in the file name just a space between the
> link tags and the actual file name.
>
> I know the issues of the "Shadow:" pre-text in the note came up originally
> where you made a strong case for it. Another less obtrusive
> option could be
> to simply remove the space after the colon like [[[Shadow:List
> Name]]] that
> way you could specify the Shadow link tag as being :and] instead of [and].
> This option has also been tested and works.
>
> Samuel J. Radcliffe asked what would happen if you had the parent also
> listed in the origin tag like [[[Shadow:List Name >parent]]] In this case
> you would also need to setup a link tag in MegaWiki for [and> to be
> recognised as a link back to Shadow. You would then need to
> remember to only
> tap on the file name and not the parent. The only trouble with this right
> now is that Shadow adds a space before the > If the origin note
> was changed
> to read [[[Shadow:List Name>parent]]] without spaces before or after the
> unique tags this idea would be airtight.
>
> I am working both sides of the case here between the Shadow and MegaWiki
> lists trying to find a solution. I appreciate this only being viable if
> enough Shadow users are interested.
>
> j.
>
>
>
> > From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> > Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:45:46 -0500 (EST)
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly"
> checkbox in the
> >> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note
> origin? That way
> >> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
> >>
> >> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple
> as tapping on
> >> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag.
> MegaaWiki
> >> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding
> list, not just the
> >> last list you had open.
> >
> > Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
> > seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk
> to the real
> > note, when Shadow opens it up :)
> >
> > I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if that
> > would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a little
> > thing..
> >
> > You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
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| 4421 |
From: psvincent2000 <psvincent@m...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:42pm
Subject: Desktop shortcuts
|
| |
Any progress on the undocumented shortcuts in the Desktop program
yet? :) Is it possible, once you've written an item using the
Desktop program, to promote or demote it (the way it can be done on
the PPK using backspace and the space key)? Or create a parent
item? It is nice to have the desktop program, but so far it is MUCH
easier to manipulate lists on the handheld side. So much so that I'm
not using the desktop program, despite having registered it. :(
Mark
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, psvincent2000 wrote:
>
> > On the desktop side, is it possible to use keyboard shortcuts to
> > start an item that is higher/lower/same level of hierarchy? If
not,
> > maybe something like Alt-return to start a child, Shift-return to
> > start an item at one level higher, and control-return to start a
new
> > one at the same level?
>
> A whole pile of keys need to be defined; right now I have a
> undocumented set of ctrl-m and ctrl-n (new and new child). They may
likely
> change in the future.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4422 |
From: rvanderwoning <rvanderwoning@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 4:51pm
Subject: Re: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
| |
Add me to the list as well. I've started using MegaWiki only recently
after reading some very enthusiastic posts in the peditors forum, and
I have to say that I am more than impressed by its potential.
Combining it with Shadow creates a dynamite solution.
Another way to go about this (maybe parallel to this initiative) is
to ask Jerry (the MegaWiki guy) to develop a Shadow plugin. There are
already several plugins available for other applications. I haven't
really read into the specifics of the MW plugin architecture yet, but
perhaps this would give Shadow a bit more flexibility in how it can
format its origin history.
Roy.
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Samuel J. Radcliffe" <samr@g...> wrote:
> Count me in. It looks like a real winner, greatly increasing the
value of
> the shadow context in the todo note. I don't know why anyone should
complain
> about losing "Shadow: ". If you know shadow and linking, you
immediately
> recognize that what you're looking at is shadow context because of
the
> "[[[ ]]]". Of course I was one of the original arguers against the
inclusion
> of "Shadow: ", and I lost that one ;-)
>
> ...Sam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ::.jay.west [mailto:email@j...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:14 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@y...
> > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using
MegaWiki
> >
> >
> >
> > Tested and confirmed Jeff, clicking on the note text of [[[List
> > Name]]] does
> > jump you straight to Shadow and opens the corresponding "List
> > Name" file. It
> > has no problems with any spaces in the file name just a space
between the
> > link tags and the actual file name.
> >
> > I know the issues of the "Shadow:" pre-text in the note came up
originally
> > where you made a strong case for it. Another less obtrusive
> > option could be
> > to simply remove the space after the colon like [[[Shadow:List
> > Name]]] that
> > way you could specify the Shadow link tag as being :and] instead
of [and].
> > This option has also been tested and works.
> >
> > Samuel J. Radcliffe asked what would happen if you had the parent
also
> > listed in the origin tag like [[[Shadow:List Name >parent]]] In
this case
> > you would also need to setup a link tag in MegaWiki for [and> to
be
> > recognised as a link back to Shadow. You would then need to
> > remember to only
> > tap on the file name and not the parent. The only trouble with
this right
> > now is that Shadow adds a space before the > If the origin note
> > was changed
> > to read [[[Shadow:List Name>parent]]] without spaces before or
after the
> > unique tags this idea would be airtight.
> >
> > I am working both sides of the case here between the Shadow and
MegaWiki
> > lists trying to find a solution. I appreciate this only being
viable if
> > enough Shadow users are interested.
> >
> > j.
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> > > Reply-To: shadow-discuss@y...
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:45:46 -0500 (EST)
> > > To: shadow-discuss@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using
MegaWiki
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly"
> > checkbox in the
> > >> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note
> > origin? That way
> > >> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
> > >>
> > >> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple
> > as tapping on
> > >> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag.
> > MegaaWiki
> > >> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding
> > list, not just the
> > >> last list you had open.
> > >
> > > Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
> > > seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk
> > to the real
> > > note, when Shadow opens it up :)
> > >
> > > I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if
that
> > > would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a
little
> > > thing..
> > >
> > > You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
> > > --
> > > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your
own micro
> > > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I
mean,
> > > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate
he is?"
> > > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@e...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
>
>
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| 4423 |
From: Bert Latamore <bertlatamore@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 6:56pm
Subject: Re: Re: VFS/cards
|
| |
--- Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Bert Latamore wrote:
>
> I give Aportis one thing (and only one thing):
> "BrainForest" is a
> cool name. Too bad they had to waste it ;)
>
> jeff
Jeff, Shadow Planner is at least as cool.
Bert (a.k.a. The PDA Guerilla)
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| 4424 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:36pm
Subject: Re: jog dial.. push in list?
|
| |
i'm with you on details for jog dial push.
thanks.
kevin
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|
| 4425 |
From: kenclatham <clatham1@t...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:56pm
Subject: Re: New From problems?
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, kenclatham wrote:
>
> > I just did an experiment. Went to Palm desktop, added "Dummy" ToDo
> > priority 1 undated. Synced it in to the 6035 and it won't show up in
> > "New From". Open builtin Todo, its there, bottom of the list. I
> > specifically avoided *ever* starting DBK4, so it *appears* to have
> > nothing to do with this oddity.
>
> OKay. Don't sweat it any more.. I'll look into it in a bit.
>
> When does your week begin?
>
> Jeff
>
<snip>
Sunday.
And I wasn't sweatting it... I suppose I should have added some
smiley faces. These things don't "get to me" as much as that last
post might imply... just curious really. I actually enjoy a good game
of "nail the bug!" :)
Ken
|
| 4426 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:38pm
Subject: Re: Clie FontHack123 setup...
|
| |
i had a few items in action names (my datebook) that were strange too, and found that by setting every font listed (since i didn't know which applied to which part of the program), all then subsequently worked fine. may want to try that!
kevin
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|
| 4427 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 7:37pm
Subject: Re: Desktop shortcuts
|
| |
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, psvincent2000 wrote:
> Any progress on the undocumented shortcuts in the Desktop program yet?
> :) Is it possible, once you've written an item using the Desktop
> program, to promote or demote it (the way it can be done on the PPK
> using backspace and the space key)? Or create a parent item? It is
> nice to have the desktop program, but so far it is MUCH easier to
> manipulate lists on the handheld side. So much so that I'm not using
> the desktop program, despite having registered it. :(
Features to come. I have big plans. One of the first things to go
into the desktop will be moving items around, but lots of work to do.. I
want to improve syncing (faster, more stable, better handling of multipler
computers tossed into the mix, etc)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4428 |
From: Bert Latamore <bertlatamore@y...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:46pm
Subject: Re: Desktop shortcuts
|
| |
Jeff,
What I am most interested in personally on the desktop
is the ability to share files with Microsoft Word. I
just completed a 6,500 word chapter in the report I am
working on. This was a rather complex piece to
construct, and I had to outline it first. Because Word
is such a poor and frustrating outliner I turned to
Shadow and actually did the entire 6,500 word outline
in it. This experience turned me into a heavy Shadow
user, by the way.
When I finished I needed to export the outline to
Word. I installed the desktop version but in the end
instead of working through it I exported the file in
my HandEra to a Palm DOC file, opened that in
WordSmith and converted it into a WordSmith file (by
changing the formatting in a single line). Then I hot
synced and opened the document in Word on my desktop
and converted it to a Word .doc file.
That worked tolerably well except that I had to go
through the entire outline and reformat all the
indents in Word.
I don't mind working this way, but I would prefer a
process with fewer steps. For instance, if you could
provide something similar to the WordSmith link to
Word so I could simply hot sync and then read the
Shadow document directly into Word. Most of all, I
would like to avoid the reformatting, but that is
probably something beyond your control.
Bert
--- Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, psvincent2000 wrote:
>
> > Any progress on the undocumented shortcuts in the
> Desktop program yet?
> > :) Is it possible, once you've written an item
> using the Desktop
> > program, to promote or demote it (the way it can
> be done on the PPK
> > using backspace and the space key)? Or create a
> parent item? It is
> > nice to have the desktop program, but so far it is
> MUCH easier to
> > manipulate lists on the handheld side. So much so
> that I'm not using
> > the desktop program, despite having registered it.
> :(
>
> Features to come. I have big plans. One of the
> first things to go
> into the desktop will be moving items around, but
> lots of work to do.. I
> want to improve syncing (faster, more stable, better
> handling of multipler
> computers tossed into the mix, etc)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around
> in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control
> Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he
> calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
>
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| 4429 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2002 10:58pm
Subject: Re: Desktop shortcuts
|
| |
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Bert Latamore wrote:
> I don't mind working this way, but I would prefer a process with fewer
> steps. For instance, if you could provide something similar to the
> WordSmith link to Word so I could simply hot sync and then read the
> Shadow document directly into Word. Most of all, I would like to avoid
> the reformatting, but that is probably something beyond your control.
I plan on adding export and import of rtf (Rich text) documents,
and MSPRoject files.
For now ever.. the shadow desktop can "save as" html, text or
xml. Word should be able to do something interesting with the text and xml
exports, even at this early stage. Certainly avoid going through
WordSmith..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4430 |
From: egroy <egroy@y...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Desktop shortcuts
|
| |
> When I finished I needed to export the outline to
> Word. I installed the desktop version but in the end
> instead of working through it I exported the file in
> my HandEra to a Palm DOC file, opened that in
> WordSmith and converted it into a WordSmith file (by
> changing the formatting in a single line). Then I hot
> synced and opened the document in Word on my desktop
> and converted it to a Word .doc file.
>
> That worked tolerably well except that I had to go
> through the entire outline and reformat all the
> indents in Word.
>
I'm sorry to say, but you did it "bass-akwards" (no offence).
I've had great results so far exporting as HTML and opening in Word &
saving as Word document. The levels, bold & strikethrough formatting
all convert flawlessly. My only two gripes about the process are (1)
in items that have a date associated with them, the date appears in
funky odd-looking tables (I have to manually convert these tables
into text & re-align), and (2) there's an extra caret return
character appended to the parent items, + an end-of-line character
that Word uses, so the parent items are separated from children by an
empty line which makes them look detached. Still, fixing this in a
final document is much easier & faster than what you were doing.
|
| 4431 |
From: Samuel J. Radcliffe <samr@g...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
| |
Here's an alternative that wouldn't require Jeff to change anything: include
the Megawicki delimiters in your shadow filename! My Megawicki shadow
delimiters are <>. So I change filename to <filename>. Now the context in
the todo note reads [[[Shadow: <filename>>morecontext]]]. I tap the
<filename> and away I go! Slick.
...Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samuel J. Radcliffe [mailto:samr@g...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:25 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
>
> Count me in. It looks like a real winner, greatly increasing the value of
> the shadow context in the todo note. I don't know why anyone
> should complain
> about losing "Shadow: ". If you know shadow and linking, you immediately
> recognize that what you're looking at is shadow context because of the
> "[[[ ]]]". Of course I was one of the original arguers against
> the inclusion
> of "Shadow: ", and I lost that one ;-)
>
> ...Sam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ::.jay.west [mailto:email@j...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:14 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
> >
> >
> >
> > Tested and confirmed Jeff, clicking on the note text of [[[List
> > Name]]] does
> > jump you straight to Shadow and opens the corresponding "List
> > Name" file. It
> > has no problems with any spaces in the file name just a space
> between the
> > link tags and the actual file name.
> >
> > I know the issues of the "Shadow:" pre-text in the note came up
> originally
> > where you made a strong case for it. Another less obtrusive
> > option could be
> > to simply remove the space after the colon like [[[Shadow:List
> > Name]]] that
> > way you could specify the Shadow link tag as being :and]
> instead of [and].
> > This option has also been tested and works.
> >
> > Samuel J. Radcliffe asked what would happen if you had the parent also
> > listed in the origin tag like [[[Shadow:List Name >parent]]] In
> this case
> > you would also need to setup a link tag in MegaWiki for [and> to be
> > recognised as a link back to Shadow. You would then need to
> > remember to only
> > tap on the file name and not the parent. The only trouble with
> this right
> > now is that Shadow adds a space before the > If the origin note
> > was changed
> > to read [[[Shadow:List Name>parent]]] without spaces before or after the
> > unique tags this idea would be airtight.
> >
> > I am working both sides of the case here between the Shadow and MegaWiki
> > lists trying to find a solution. I appreciate this only being viable if
> > enough Shadow users are interested.
> >
> > j.
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
> > > Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:45:46 -0500 (EST)
> > > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly"
> > checkbox in the
> > >> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note
> > origin? That way
> > >> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
> > >>
> > >> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple
> > as tapping on
> > >> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag.
> > MegaaWiki
> > >> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding
> > list, not just the
> > >> last list you had open.
> > >
> > > Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
> > > seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk
> > to the real
> > > note, when Shadow opens it up :)
> > >
> > > I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if that
> > > would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a little
> > > thing..
> > >
> > > You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
> > >
> > > jeff
> > >
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> > > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4432 |
From: ::.jay.west <email@j...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 2:27pm
Subject: Re: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
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Ah ha, very clever. Yes that could work very well in the interim until a
plug-in for Shadow appears.
j.
> From: "Samuel J. Radcliffe" <samr@g...>
> Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:18:05 -0600
> To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
> Here's an alternative that wouldn't require Jeff to change anything: include
> the Megawicki delimiters in your shadow filename! My Megawicki shadow
> delimiters are <>. So I change filename to <filename>. Now the context in
> the todo note reads [[[Shadow: <filename>>morecontext]]]. I tap the
> <filename> and away I go! Slick.
>
> ...Sam
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Samuel J. Radcliffe [mailto:samr@g...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:25 AM
>> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>>
>>
>> Count me in. It looks like a real winner, greatly increasing the value of
>> the shadow context in the todo note. I don't know why anyone
>> should complain
>> about losing "Shadow: ". If you know shadow and linking, you immediately
>> recognize that what you're looking at is shadow context because of the
>> "[[[ ]]]". Of course I was one of the original arguers against
>> the inclusion
>> of "Shadow: ", and I lost that one ;-)
>>
>> ...Sam
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ::.jay.west [mailto:email@j...]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:14 AM
>>> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tested and confirmed Jeff, clicking on the note text of [[[List
>>> Name]]] does
>>> jump you straight to Shadow and opens the corresponding "List
>>> Name" file. It
>>> has no problems with any spaces in the file name just a space
>> between the
>>> link tags and the actual file name.
>>>
>>> I know the issues of the "Shadow:" pre-text in the note came up
>> originally
>>> where you made a strong case for it. Another less obtrusive
>>> option could be
>>> to simply remove the space after the colon like [[[Shadow:List
>>> Name]]] that
>>> way you could specify the Shadow link tag as being :and]
>> instead of [and].
>>> This option has also been tested and works.
>>>
>>> Samuel J. Radcliffe asked what would happen if you had the parent also
>>> listed in the origin tag like [[[Shadow:List Name >parent]]] In
>> this case
>>> you would also need to setup a link tag in MegaWiki for [and> to be
>>> recognised as a link back to Shadow. You would then need to
>>> remember to only
>>> tap on the file name and not the parent. The only trouble with
>> this right
>>> now is that Shadow adds a space before the > If the origin note
>>> was changed
>>> to read [[[Shadow:List Name>parent]]] without spaces before or after the
>>> unique tags this idea would be airtight.
>>>
>>> I am working both sides of the case here between the Shadow and MegaWiki
>>> lists trying to find a solution. I appreciate this only being viable if
>>> enough Shadow users are interested.
>>>
>>> j.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
>>>> Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:45:46 -0500 (EST)
>>>> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, ::.jay.west wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jeff, would you considering adding a "MegaWiki Friendly"
>>> checkbox in the
>>>>> prefs that would simply not add the "Shadow: " to the note
>>> origin? That way
>>>>> all todo notes would simply read [[[File Name]]]
>>>>>
>>>>> Linking back to the originating file would then be as simple
>>> as tapping on
>>>>> the note in your todo list and then tapping on the origin tag.
>>> MegaaWiki
>>>>> then whisks you off to Shadow and opens the corresponding
>>> list, not just the
>>>>> last list you had open.
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried it? (edit the origin info to read like that, and
>>>> seen if Wiki works with it?) (though this adds the origin junk
>>> to the real
>>>> note, when Shadow opens it up :)
>>>>
>>>> I could drop the "Shadow: part for everyone, but not sure if that
>>>> would annoy folks. Not sure I want another option, for such a little
>>>> thing..
>>>>
>>>> You sure MegaWiki understands filenames wirth spaces in them?
>>>>
>>>> jeff
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
>>>> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
>>>> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
>>>> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>>>>
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| 4433 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Samuel J. Radcliffe wrote:
> Here's an alternative that wouldn't require Jeff to change anything: include
> the Megawicki delimiters in your shadow filename! My Megawicki shadow
> delimiters are <>. So I change filename to <filename>. Now the context in
> the todo note reads [[[Shadow: <filename>>morecontext]]]. I tap the
> <filename> and away I go! Slick.
Now thasts a kickass idea :)
Someone post that to the wiki group :)
jeff
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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4434 |
From: kasmesa <samir.kasme@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 2:37pm
Subject: Hotsync hanging (again)
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Hi Jeff, hi everybody
I have read the posts about hotsync hanging with rel. 2.1, but I have
a different one;-)
Since I upgraded to 2.1 hotsync hangs consistently _at the very end_
i.e. the PC-side hotsync window is closed and the process has ended
there, however the Palm-side is frozen on "Cleanup - Please wait". I
have to soft-reset in order to access my Palm data again. Other than
that, all conduits seem to work fine
I tried to delete all Shadow XML files, nothing changed. But if I
disable the Shadow conduit the problem disappears!
One last note: I _think_ the problem appeared only after I had
installed the new Desktop on my home PC as well, and I read there
were issues when syncing with 2 PCs. However I can't be sure about
that since I installed the software at home very shortly after
upgrading at work. But I think that directly after the upgrade to
2.1, hotsync was fine.
Any idea on how I can avoid to do a soft reset after every
hotsync?... I don't have to have the conduit working at home since I
consider it mainly as a backup, but how can I put things straight now?
Thanks in advance
Samir
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| 4435 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Hotsync hanging (again)
|
| |
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, kasmesa wrote:
> Since I upgraded to 2.1 hotsync hangs consistently _at the very end_
> i.e. the PC-side hotsync window is closed and the process has ended
> there, however the Palm-side is frozen on "Cleanup - Please wait". I
> have to soft-reset in order to access my Palm data again. Other than
> that, all conduits seem to work fine
Doesn't sound like a Shadow issue, per se -- the conduit is
completed you say (since the desktop side has closed). All the changes in
the conduit from 2.0 to 2.1 are done on the desktop side. Nothign has
changed on the handheld.
> I tried to delete all Shadow XML files, nothing changed. But if I
> disable the Shadow conduit the problem disappears!
Unbelievable.
XML files from ShadowPlan160?
> One last note: I _think_ the problem appeared only after I had
> installed the new Desktop on my home PC as well, and I read there
> were issues when syncing with 2 PCs. However I can't be sure about
> that since I installed the software at home very shortly after
> upgrading at work. But I think that directly after the upgrade to
> 2.1, hotsync was fine.
Wouldn't have anything to do with it.
> Any idea on how I can avoid to do a soft reset after every
> hotsync?... I don't have to have the conduit working at home since I
> consider it mainly as a backup, but how can I put things straight now?
Try reinstalling 2.1 just to make sure you've got it fully
installed. If still problems, install 2.0 and see if that fixes it. (And
if it does, ideally, install 2.1 again to see if the problem comes back,
so we know for sure somethign is up).
What version of Windows?
I'm betting XP..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4436 |
From: kasmesa <samir.kasme@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 5:34pm
Subject: Re: Hotsync hanging (again)
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound like a Shadow issue, per se -- the conduit is
> completed you say (since the desktop side has closed). All the
changes in
> the conduit from 2.0 to 2.1 are done on the desktop side. Nothign
has
> changed on the handheld.
>
> > I tried to delete all Shadow XML files, nothing changed. But if I
> > disable the Shadow conduit the problem disappears!
>
> Unbelievable.
>
And yet true ;-) it's really consistent: Shadow conduit enabled,
hotsync hangs, Shadow conduit disabled, hotsync OK.
> XML files from ShadowPlan160?
Yes from ShadowPlan160 directory
>
> > One last note: I _think_ the problem appeared only after I had
> > installed the new Desktop on my home PC as well, and I read there
> > were issues when syncing with 2 PCs. However I can't be sure
about
> > that since I installed the software at home very shortly after
> > upgrading at work. But I think that directly after the upgrade to
> > 2.1, hotsync was fine.
>
> Wouldn't have anything to do with it.
Funny because I remember having hotsync'd straight away after the
first install (to see if French accented characters came through) and
it was fine...
>
> > Any idea on how I can avoid to do a soft reset after every
> > hotsync?... I don't have to have the conduit working at home
since I
> > consider it mainly as a backup, but how can I put things straight
now?
>
> Try reinstalling 2.1 just to make sure you've got it fully
> installed. If still problems, install 2.0 and see if that fixes it.
(And
> if it does, ideally, install 2.1 again to see if the problem comes
back,
> so we know for sure somethign is up).
>
> What version of Windows?
>
> I'm betting XP..
No, NT4...
Thanks for the quick reply, I will try what you suggested
Samir
|
| 4437 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2002 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hotsync hanging (again)
|
| |
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, kasmesa wrote:
> And yet true ;-) it's really consistent: Shadow conduit enabled,
> hotsync hangs, Shadow conduit disabled, hotsync OK.
What version of Shadow on the handheld? (Help -> About, what does
it say in the bottom corner). A new conduit with an older Shadow can error
out and do nothing.. hmm.
Do a file find for "lastsync.txt" and send me (not the group) it,
so I can trace whats going on. It sounds like Shadow is completely done,
so its difficult to see how you could have an issue.
> No, NT4...
No reported issues with NT4 :/
> Thanks for the quick reply, I will try what you suggested
We'll nail it down, but never heard of such a thing :/
jeff
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"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4438 |
From: noneofyer42businessbub <adachipro@y...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 1:58am
Subject: Re: Handera users
|
| |
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> Is the minimized grafitti area useful? ie: I suppose you may come
> into Shadow intending only to read lists, and not edit them.. so it
is
> conceivable you wish to change the screen size at runtime, by
toying with
> the silkscreened grafitti area?
Shadow support of the Handera's minimized grafitti area would be very
useful.
Not just for veiwing list but for editing them as well if one has a
keyboard. With a
keyboard at the very least one can access the menus with the stylus.
Take care,
Anthony
|
| 4439 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:21am
Subject: Re: Re: Handera users
|
| |
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, noneofyer42businessbub wrote:
> Shadow support of the Handera's minimized grafitti area would be very
> useful.
> Not just for veiwing list but for editing them as well if one has a
> keyboard. With a
> keyboard at the very least one can access the menus with the stylus.
True; having a keyboard and minimized grafitti area woudl rock,
wouldn't it..
I'll see what I can do when I get to the highres side of the
force.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4440 |
From: Samuel J. Radcliffe <samr@g...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:07pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
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After further testing, it looks like Megawiki doesn't actually link to the
filename. I was thrown off by the fact that I had a word in both the
filename and the list itself, and Megawiki was linking to the word in the
list, not to the filename (should have been obvious, because Megawiki works
off the find feature, which searches text fields, not filenames). My
solution, which requires a little more work, is to include the filename as
an item in the list (without the Megawiki delimiters). And remember to make
the link word unique, else you might find yourself in the wrong list.
To Summarize:
(1) When naming a list, include a Megawiki tag somewhere in the filename
(can be, but need not be the entire filename). For example, if your Megawiki
Shadow delimiters are <>, filenames might be <filename>, file<name>,
<file>name, file na<me>, etc. Make sure the part inside <> is unique across
all of your Shadow lists.
(2)Include the Megawiki tag, without delimiters, somewhere inside your list.
Corresponding to the above, this could be filename, name, file, me, etc. I
like to include it as the first item in the list, in bold caps, to remind me
that it is the Megawiki link. [Hey Jeff, cool if you could toggle hide/show
for individual items. Hiding any item would trigger the darkening of the
filter button, and a filter option would be 'Manual']
(3) Now when Shadow writes context information into the note of a linked
todo, it will automatically be inserting a Megawiki link which, when tapped,
will take you to the Shadow list where the todo originated.
...Sam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:37 AM
> To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Samuel J. Radcliffe wrote:
>
> > Here's an alternative that wouldn't require Jeff to change
> anything: include
> > the Megawicki delimiters in your shadow filename! My Megawicki shadow
> > delimiters are <>. So I change filename to <filename>. Now the
> context in
> > the todo note reads [[[Shadow: <filename>>morecontext]]]. I tap the
> > <filename> and away I go! Slick.
>
> Now thasts a kickass idea :)
>
> Someone post that to the wiki group :)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
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| 4441 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 2:35pm
Subject: RE: Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
|
| |
If you have time, get the belowtext, maybe flesh it out a bit,and
send it to shadow-tips?
jeff
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Samuel J. Radcliffe wrote:
> After further testing, it looks like Megawiki doesn't actually link to the
> filename. I was thrown off by the fact that I had a word in both the
> filename and the list itself, and Megawiki was linking to the word in the
> list, not to the filename (should have been obvious, because Megawiki works
> off the find feature, which searches text fields, not filenames). My
> solution, which requires a little more work, is to include the filename as
> an item in the list (without the Megawiki delimiters). And remember to make
> the link word unique, else you might find yourself in the wrong list.
>
> To Summarize:
>
> (1) When naming a list, include a Megawiki tag somewhere in the filename
> (can be, but need not be the entire filename). For example, if your Megawiki
> Shadow delimiters are <>, filenames might be <filename>, file<name>,
> <file>name, file na<me>, etc. Make sure the part inside <> is unique across
> all of your Shadow lists.
>
> (2)Include the Megawiki tag, without delimiters, somewhere inside your list.
> Corresponding to the above, this could be filename, name, file, me, etc. I
> like to include it as the first item in the list, in bold caps, to remind me
> that it is the Megawiki link. [Hey Jeff, cool if you could toggle hide/show
> for individual items. Hiding any item would trigger the darkening of the
> filter button, and a filter option would be 'Manual']
>
> (3) Now when Shadow writes context information into the note of a linked
> todo, it will automatically be inserting a Megawiki link which, when tapped,
> will take you to the Shadow list where the todo originated.
>
> ...Sam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Mitchell [mailto:support@s...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:37 AM
> > To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [shadow-discuss] Linking back to Shadow using MegaWiki
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Samuel J. Radcliffe wrote:
> >
> > > Here's an alternative that wouldn't require Jeff to change
> > anything: include
> > > the Megawicki delimiters in your shadow filename! My Megawicki shadow
> > > delimiters are <>. So I change filename to <filename>. Now the
> > context in
> > > the todo note reads [[[Shadow: <filename>>morecontext]]]. I tap the
> > > <filename> and away I go! Slick.
> >
> > Now thasts a kickass idea :)
> >
> > Someone post that to the wiki group :)
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > --
> > "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> > circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> > sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> > -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
> >
> >
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-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4442 |
From: raslawski <brian.raslawski@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 5:38pm
Subject: Undesired Demotion
|
| |
I am having problems in Shadow where when I select an item to edit
it, the item becomes the child of a nearby item. I am very conscious
about not moving the stylus when I tap, but this still frequently
happens. In fact just about every time I select an item,
the "sibling" indicator at the top of the screen pops up.
It seems to me that the software is too sensitive to any stylus
movement when selecting an item. My expectation is that the software
would not even try to move an item unless the stylus is draged a
minimum of 1/2 of the row height.
I have not seen this problem mentioned on this list, so I am
wondering if I am the only one experiencing this problem?
Since I contacted Jeff earlier about the problem, I thought that it
would get fixed in 2.1.0, but the problem still exists.
Anybody else experiencing this?
Any suggestions on how to avoid this problem?
thanks
Brian
|
| 4443 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 7:41pm
Subject: Re: Undesired Demotion
|
| |
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, raslawski wrote:
> I am having problems in Shadow where when I select an item to edit
> it, the item becomes the child of a nearby item. I am very conscious
> about not moving the stylus when I tap, but this still frequently
> happens. In fact just about every time I select an item,
> the "sibling" indicator at the top of the screen pops up.
>
> It seems to me that the software is too sensitive to any stylus
> movement when selecting an item. My expectation is that the software
> would not even try to move an item unless the stylus is draged a
> minimum of 1/2 of the row height.
Thats pretty much how it works; the OS is sending the drag events,
however, and Shadow simply reacts. So there is somethign futzy going on,
but it seems to be very isolated (it happens to a very few people, and its
hard to determine if its a futzy tap, a sloppy digitizer needing reset, or
somethign really wrong with Shadow.. and how so). Increasing the tap area
around buttons may help, but might space things out a bit more.. I may
fiddle with thr sensitivity, but its complex without messing up some other
part of the tightly knit interface..
> I have not seen this problem mentioned on this list, so I am wondering
> if I am the only one experiencing this problem?
A few people have mentioned it. Enough that there really is a
problem, though rare, I think.
> Since I contacted Jeff earlier about the problem, I thought that it
> would get fixed in 2.1.0, but the problem still exists.
My todo list is down now.. only about 200+ items in it (really ;),
so it takes awhile to get through things. Especially now that the
application is well established and powerful, any features or fixes or
changes tend to be "big" (like whole new subsystems, not little
things).. so it takes awhile.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4444 |
From: Ken Gordon <ksg@t...>
Date: Fri Mar 1, 2002 8:15pm
Subject: Re: Undesired Demotion
|
| |
Don't know if this is what's happening, but an idea: Sometimes, when the
Palm screen gets old, it can start to attribute length to taps - ie a dot
is interpreted as a short line. I am told that this occurs when what ever
it is that separates the layers of the screen starts to get thin in places.
For me, the problem showed up as unreliable graffiti, but you can see it
showing up in other ways too.
There is a piece of diagnostic software for the Palm called Graffiti Aid
that will take your taps and play back what the Palm thinks it saw. When I
got it it came with a help screen that points you to Chris Crawford -
crawford@i... - as its source.
--On 2002 March 01 14:41 -0500 Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, raslawski wrote:
>
> > I am having problems in Shadow where when I select an item to edit
> > it, the item becomes the child of a nearby item. I am very conscious
> > about not moving the stylus when I tap, but this still frequently
> > happens. In fact just about every time I select an item,
> > the "sibling" indicator at the top of the screen pops up.
> >
> > It seems to me that the software is too sensitive to any stylus
> > movement when selecting an item. My expectation is that the software
> > would not even try to move an item unless the stylus is draged a
> > minimum of 1/2 of the row height.
>
> Thats pretty much how it works; the OS is sending the drag events,
> however, and Shadow simply reacts. So there is somethign futzy going on,
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