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| 4301 |
From: lcsahagun <lcsahagun@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:51pm
Subject: Re: Clie and Handera folks!
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what font are you using?
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "Kevin Giberson" <kevin@g...> wrote:
> i'd agree re: Sony Clie...jog dial (screen at a time, not line at a
time) and back button support first...jog dial is used extensively
here. thanks.
> kevin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Russ & Ling Nero
> To: shadow-discuss@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie and Handera folks!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth S. Rhee <polymath@m...>
>
> > Sharper icons and small high resolution fonts would be nice.
>
> > BTW, I've been using Lubak's fonts with Fonthack, and boy, does
it look
> nice. It's better than hrfontmapper I've used in the past.
>
> > With the fonhack and Lubak's fonts, I think I can wait for a
long time for
> Clie support (i.e., it's that good).
>
> Agreed. I've also been using Lubak's fonts and Shadow works
great with it.
> Sharper icons are nice, but I rather have support for the jog
dial and back
> button first.
>
> Ling
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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| 4302 |
From: arskillings72212 <bob.skillings@A...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 6:20pm
Subject: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
>
> I intend to hold off on getting into "new" things until
existing
> pending new things get finished, and we clean up a few bugs that
have
> cropped up of late. We need to nail down the floor before building
the
> house more :)
>
> jeff
>
I appreciate your reply and agree wholeheartedly.
I can understand your focus right now is supporting the new release
and working through whatever glitches may rear their ugly head before
starting on another round of fixes and enhancements.
FWIW, I'm sold on Shadow Plan being *the* organizer for my handheld,
so I'm with you for the long haul.
My biggest worry is figuring out how I can get the rest of my
workgroup to adopt your product... ;)
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| 4303 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 6:46pm
Subject: Re: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, arskillings72212 wrote:
> I appreciate your reply and agree wholeheartedly.
(Of course, since a release is out, I can do crazy things in alpha
like high res, screen code rewrites for speed, etc :)
> I can understand your focus right now is supporting the new release
> and working through whatever glitches may rear their ugly head before
> starting on another round of fixes and enhancements.
Definitely some enhancements, but ones I've been putting off
awhile. Its not fair to tease everyone, so rather than get side tracked on
new new stuff, I'm goign to work on old new stuff, as well as stabilities
issues that've come up, fixing new from, etc.
> My biggest worry is figuring out how I can get the rest of my
> workgroup to adopt your product... ;)
If the group is semi sizable, get ahold of me privately; we do
offer group discounts.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4304 |
From: Jan Erik Moström <lists@m...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 5:58pm
Subject: Re: OT - first day of week
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At 2002-02-25 09:12, Cindy Greene <cindyg@c...> wrote:
>I think we are so used to seeing Sunday visually on a calendar as the
In the US perhaps 8-)
jem
--
Jan Erik Moström jem@m... www.mostrom.pp.se
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| 4305 |
From: arskillings72212 <bob.skillings@A...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 8:47pm
Subject: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
>
> If the group is semi sizable, get ahold of me privately; we do
> offer group discounts.
>
> jeff
>
Group discount ?
At $12US for both HH and DT, how much lower can you go ?
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| 4306 |
From: dgselig <dgselig@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 9:42pm
Subject: Re: P3-P5 ToDo problem (Ken)
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It happens with either the built-in ToDo app, or Datebk4 5.0pJ
Dave
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, dgselig wrote:
>
> > Just to add my data point:
> >
> > If I add an undated ToDo, it will only show up in the "New From"
list
> > if it is priority 1 or 2. But it does show up if I set to 1 or
2.
> > Change it to 3 and it disappears.
>
> I'll be looking into it. Very whacky.
>
> Which ToDo program?
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he
is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4307 |
From: bonos167 <ygd@i...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 10:07pm
Subject: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, arskillings72212 wrote:
>
>
> Definitely some enhancements, but ones I've been putting off
> awhile. Its not fair to tease everyone, so rather than get side
tracked on
> new new stuff, I'm goign to work on old new stuff...
>
Would that include filtering items and notes with a keyword???
(I am using v. 2.0.9)
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| 4308 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 10:32pm
Subject: Re: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, bonos167 wrote:
> Would that include filtering items and notes with a keyword???
Maybe; ask me in a bit. That hadn't come up in the past too much,
but since I'll be adding user definable filters, its possible.
> (I am using v. 2.0.9)
Use 2.1. When a release comes out, its better touse that than
alphas :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4309 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:12am
Subject: Clie users
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It seems the top requests from Clie users amount to this:
o) High res fonts
o) Jog dial
o) VFS
o) High resolution (using teeny fonts to get more on screen)
VFS is almost complete now (not yet into alpha).
Jog dial will go in soon.
High res fonts.. okay.. check me here. With font bucket installed,
and in high res assist most, I was able to pick high res fonts and they
displayed fine. (Just when using high res assist, dont' activate col-bg or
your unit locks up).
High resolution.. I need ot debate how I wish to use it yet.. but
it actually seemed like a lesser priority to Clie users..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4310 |
From: bonos167 <ygd@i...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:33am
Subject: Re: Force Save & Protecting Lists
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, bonos167 wrote:
>
Will do. Thanks!
> > Would that include filtering items and notes with a keyword???
>
> Maybe; ask me in a bit. That hadn't come up in the past too much,
> but since I'll be adding user definable filters, its possible.
>
> > (I am using v. 2.0.9)
>
> Use 2.1. When a release comes out, its better touse that than
> alphas :)
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4311 |
From: letuslook <letuslook@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:25am
Subject: Links back to Shadow?
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Hi all,
I've been working with Shadow for a couple days now trying to figure
out how to make it work like I want.
One thing I really, really, really wanted to do was transfer Shadow
items to the To-Do list, then jump from the To-Do item directly into
Shadow. For example, I may have more details about the To-Do item
stored in Shadow.
For some reason, the link seems to be one-way. I get to the To Do
item "Daily Reminders" and click on the Note next to it. It opens to
show [[[Shadow: Reminder]]]
clicking on this doesn't jump back to Shadow. Am I going to have to
use a linker or wiki type hack to get what I want?
Thanks!
Burton
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| 4312 |
From: kenclatham <clatham1@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:03am
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow?
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "letuslook" <letuslook@y...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been working with Shadow for a couple days now trying to
figure
> out how to make it work like I want.
>
> One thing I really, really, really wanted to do was transfer Shadow
> items to the To-Do list, then jump from the To-Do item directly
into
> Shadow. For example, I may have more details about the To-Do item
> stored in Shadow.
>
> For some reason, the link seems to be one-way. I get to the To Do
> item "Daily Reminders" and click on the Note next to it. It opens
to
> show [[[Shadow: Reminder]]]
>
> clicking on this doesn't jump back to Shadow. Am I going to have
to
> use a linker or wiki type hack to get what I want?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Burton
Burton,
If you're talking about creating the Todo from SP or "New From"ing
into SP and them jumping to the Todo via the link then...
... after viewing the Todo, its note, etc. Hit the "Home" silk-screen
button, this will take you back to SP.
If you want to open your Todo app (built-in, DBK4, etc) then jump to
SP from the Todo... Yes, you'll have to use a hack!
I seriously doubt that Jeff will be trying any "tricks" to implement a
"jump from anywhere to SP" link. But then, he'll be the one to decide
that...
I use "Linker" for that, although I've found I don't use it much.
When I'm in DBK4 (5 actually), I don't use the TaskList hard button,
so I have it mapped to SP. Which is fine for me, since I'm usually
performing two different jobs.
In DBK4, I manhandle Todos to fit my schedule for the day (lots of
interuptions), pushing them off as I see fit. At the end of the day,
or when I review project status, I may correct those indescretions but
I'll be working in SP, my "planner". If I'm planning in SP and create
Todos, then no problem! (see above) You can jump out to "gussie" them
up and come back...
Ken
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| 4313 |
From: kenclatham <clatham1@t...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:21am
Subject: Re: P3-P5 ToDo problem (now New From problems?)
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "dgselig" <dgselig@y...> wrote:
> It happens with either the built-in ToDo app, or Datebk4 5.0pJ
>
<snip!>
Can we please ...
(1) get *my* name off this issue!
Honestly, I'm not the cause! (or at least I don't *think* so!) :)
(2) Combine this discussion under "New From problems", I, for one am
getting confused.
Summary as I know it so far...
(A) There seems to be a "ToDo extraction" problem based on
Sunday/Monday start of week system option. (I believe its confirmed
at this point)
(B) There seems to be a "Date display" problem also associated with
Sunday/Monday SOW sysop. (probably the same bug, IMHO)
(C) There seems to be an "Undated ToDo" problem which may or may not
be associated with (A) and (B). (not confirmed or hard to reproduce)
Any others?
Just want to stop whipping this poor pony, and get back to business as
usual... before I lose my mind!
And before you *say* anything, I *know* its not my decision... H*ll,
I'm just one lowly user. I'm just trying to condense this down to
some list of things I can watch out for until Jeff can get this sorted
out...
Ken
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| 4314 |
From: lamromy <romyl@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 8:03am
Subject: Re: Clie users
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Hi
Actually, col-bg is a very useful visual aid (at
least for me), if you can fix that locking problem
with Clie, I will be most grateful. That's the
only thing holding me back from registering Shadow.
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell
<support@s...> wrote:
>
> It seems the top requests from Clie users
amount to this:
>
> o) High res fonts
> o) Jog dial
> o) VFS
> o) High resolution (using teeny fonts to
get more on screen)
>
> VFS is almost complete now (not yet into
alpha).
>
> Jog dial will go in soon.
>
> High res fonts.. okay.. check me here. With
font bucket installed,
> and in high res assist most, I was able to pick
high res fonts and they
> displayed fine. (Just when using high res assist,
dont' activate col-bg or
> your unit locks up).
>
> High resolution.. I need ot debate how I
wish to use it yet.. but
> it actually seemed like a lesser priority to Clie
users..
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel
around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control
Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does
he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4315 |
From: hisimage8 <hisimage8@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:06am
Subject: Re: Default color for entries
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--- In shadow-discuss@y..., Jeff Mitchell <support@s...> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, hisimage8 wrote:
>
> > Way back when you were working mostly on the desktop there was a
> > discussion of allowing users to pick their own default color for
each
> > outline. You asked that you be reminded of this sometime after
the
> > desktop had settled down a little. Do you remember this and is
it
> > still on the to-do list?
>
> hehe :)
>
> Desktop hasn't settled down yet ;) (Ask me after the Mac
version
> goes to testing ;)
>
> jeff
Is it time to remind you of this Jeff? :)
Patricia
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| 4316 |
From: Manfred Ell <manfredell@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 11:29am
Subject: wish
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I use Shadow mostly as a todo list replacement.
I often have to switch between showing checked items and not showing them.
I have to go to the filters menu and check the filter on/off. Could you
make an icon somewhere so that a single tap would toggle the last filter?
Regards
--
Manfred Ell
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| 4317 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow?
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, letuslook wrote:
> One thing I really, really, really wanted to do was transfer Shadow
> items to the To-Do list, then jump from the To-Do item directly into
> Shadow. For example, I may have more details about the To-Do item
> stored in Shadow.
>
> For some reason, the link seems to be one-way. I get to the To Do
> item "Daily Reminders" and click on the Note next to it. It opens to
> show [[[Shadow: Reminder]]]
>
> clicking on this doesn't jump back to Shadow. Am I going to have to
> use a linker or wiki type hack to get what I want?
Yep; when you're in ToDo (or other programs), they're running, and
not Shadow. As such, we're at their whim, and since ToDo and Datebook
offer no linking functionality, we're out of luck. You can return to
Shadow right after a goto with the right pref, but being able to jump from
ToDo to Shadow at any arbitrary time will require LinkeHack or the like..
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4318 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:06pm
Subject: Re: Re: New From problems
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, kenclatham wrote:
> And before you *say* anything, I *know* its not my decision... H*ll,
> I'm just one lowly user. I'm just trying to condense this down to
> some list of things I can watch out for until Jeff can get this sorted
> out...
Which I appreciate :) A thread gets to be a few messages long, and
I start having trouble following it (and the other 200 threads in my head
;)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4319 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:09pm
Subject: Re: Re: Clie users
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, lamromy wrote:
> Actually, col-bg is a very useful visual aid (at least for me), if you
> can fix that locking problem with Clie, I will be most grateful.
> That's the only thing holding me back from registering Shadow.
I'll be fixing it; however, due to the front-light of the Clie's,
it doesn't show up well (I find most colours are washy loking on the Clie,
and light background colours are nearly invisible. I guess I'll have to
provide an option to let you pick your own colour too :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4320 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: Default color for entries
|
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, hisimage8 wrote:
> > > Way back when you were working mostly on the desktop there was a
> > > discussion of allowing users to pick their own default color for
> each
> > > outline. You asked that you be reminded of this sometime after
> the
> > > desktop had settled down a little. Do you remember this and is
> it
> > > still on the to-do list?
> >
> > hehe :)
> >
> > Desktop hasn't settled down yet ;) (Ask me after the Mac
> version
> > goes to testing ;)
>
> Is it time to remind you of this Jeff? :)
Getting there; I'm reworking things a lot (new release out, means
I can do more drastic changes for a bit).
You want a default colour for items?
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4321 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:11pm
Subject: Re: wish
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Manfred Ell wrote:
> I use Shadow mostly as a todo list replacement.
>
> I often have to switch between showing checked items and not showing them.
> I have to go to the filters menu and check the filter on/off. Could you
> make an icon somewhere so that a single tap would toggle the last filter?
[F] popmenu in the top right; you can turn off the current filter,
and when done so, re-activate it.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4322 |
From: dgselig <dgselig@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 1:47pm
Subject: Re: New From problems?
|
| |
Ken,
Your wish has been granted. Adding your name was actually a typo on
my part, but I did correct it within 2 minutes of the original post.
The problem is everyone ignored the corrected one and replied to the
original. :-)
Per your list below, I don't see any difference on my system setting
weeks to start at Sun or Mon, or any difference if ToDos are undated
or not.
My original problem (still unconfirmed as far as I know, but easily
repeatable by me) is that only Priority 1 or 2 ToDos show up in the
New From screen.
Dave
--- In shadow-discuss@y..., "kenclatham" <clatham1@t...> wrote:
> --- In shadow-discuss@y..., "dgselig" <dgselig@y...> wrote:
> > It happens with either the built-in ToDo app, or Datebk4 5.0pJ
> >
>
> <snip!>
>
> Can we please ...
>
> (1) get *my* name off this issue!
> Honestly, I'm not the cause! (or at least I don't *think*
so!) :)
>
> (2) Combine this discussion under "New From problems", I, for one am
> getting confused.
>
>
> Summary as I know it so far...
>
> (A) There seems to be a "ToDo extraction" problem based on
> Sunday/Monday start of week system option. (I believe its confirmed
> at this point)
>
> (B) There seems to be a "Date display" problem also associated with
> Sunday/Monday SOW sysop. (probably the same bug, IMHO)
>
> (C) There seems to be an "Undated ToDo" problem which may or may not
> be associated with (A) and (B). (not confirmed or hard to
reproduce)
>
> Any others?
>
> Just want to stop whipping this poor pony, and get back to business
as
> usual... before I lose my mind!
>
> And before you *say* anything, I *know* its not my decision... H*ll,
> I'm just one lowly user. I'm just trying to condense this down to
> some list of things I can watch out for until Jeff can get this
sorted
> out...
>
> Ken
|
| 4323 |
From: hisimage8 <hisimage8@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Default color for entries
|
| |
> Getting there; I'm reworking things a lot (new release out,
means
> I can do more drastic changes for a bit).
>
> You want a default colour for items?
>
> jeff
I'd just like to be able to set up a default color for each list so
that whatever I enter won't be black as a default. I don't mind
setting this for each list and I don't mind choosing colors manually
per item if I want to have a colorful list. Most of the time, tho,
I'd just like have all entires default to one color, my choice.
Thanks so much for considering this. It's nice to be able to "pretty
up" things when you have a color machine (Clie 615C).
I'm also looking forward to being able to have the col bg on that you
were mentioning earlier. I miss that -- didn't realize until now how
helpful that was.
Patricia
|
| 4324 |
From: Manfred Ell <manfredell@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:29pm
Subject: Re: wish
|
| |
That's what I use but I was looking for a shorter way ;-) i.e. a checkbox.
--
Manfred Ell
On Tuesday Feb 26 at 01:11 PM, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
----------------------- Original Message -----------------------
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Manfred Ell wrote:
>
> > I use Shadow mostly as a todo list replacement.
> >
> > I often have to switch between showing checked items and not showing them.
> > I have to go to the filters menu and check the filter on/off. Could you
> > make an icon somewhere so that a single tap would toggle the last filter?
>
> [F] popmenu in the top right; you can turn off the current filter,
> and when done so, re-activate it.
>
> jeff
>
> --
> "It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
> circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
> sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
> -- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> shadow-discuss-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
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--------------------- Original Message Ends --------------------
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| 4325 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 2:33pm
Subject: Re: wish
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Manfred Ell wrote:
> That's what I use but I was looking for a shorter way ;-) i.e. a checkbox.
You can't get much shorter than two taps; you cannot have
*everything* on the one screen, or it'd be a cluttered mess and you'd only
have a few rows of useful list space :) So two taps is pretty good :)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4326 |
From: Russ & Ling Nero <rnlnero@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:27pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
>
> It seems the top requests from Clie users amount to this:
>
> o) High res fonts
> o) Jog dial
> o) VFS
> o) High resolution (using teeny fonts to get more on screen)
>
> VFS is almost complete now (not yet into alpha).
>
Good! My memory stick should show up any day now.
> Jog dial will go in soon.
>
Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
> High res fonts.. okay.. check me here. With font bucket installed,
> and in high res assist most, I was able to pick high res fonts and they
> displayed fine. (Just when using high res assist, dont' activate col-bg or
> your unit locks up).
>
I don't use font bucket with Shadow. My brief initial look into it did not
show any clie hires fonts. Instead, I use FontHack123 and Lubak's clie
hires fonts. Coupled with Shadow's variable font support, FontHack123 works
great. I can't think of any further enhancement in this area that I'd want
to see.
> High resolution.. I need ot debate how I wish to use it yet.. but
> it actually seemed like a lesser priority to Clie users..
>
Definitely a low priority for me. I think the widgets, graphic buttons, and
such are already small enough for me to tap. I wouldn't want to see them
any smaller. While having them look sharper is nice, I'd rather see efforts
go elsewhere. I'm not sure you want to make anything bigger. Kinda defeats
the purpose of hires -- to show more and still be legible and good looking.
I also want to see that col-bg thingie fixed and enhanced with customizable
color. As you pointed out, the default light blue is barely visible on the
clie.
Thanks for your work and listening to our never-ending demands!
Ling
|
| 4327 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:49pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
Jeff said:
It seems the top requests from Clie users amount to this:
o) High res fonts
o) Jog dial
o) VFS
o) High resolution (using teeny fonts to get more on screen)
As a new Clie user I would agree with you. I'm using the Cool 5 pt font in
FontBucket, and I really like it. I can get so much more on the screen and
it's still easy on my eyes.
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| 4328 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow?
|
| |
Jeff said:
but being able to jump from
ToDo to Shadow at any arbitrary time will require LinkeHack or the like..
I would suggest either McPhling or SwitchHack for this. Either would allow
you to bounce back and force with one swipe, or bring up a "recent apps"
list to bounce back to with a swipe and a tap. Just my .02.
Scott
|
| 4329 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Russ & Ling Nero wrote:
> Good! My memory stick should show up any day now.
I just don't know what to fill mine up with (I already have a
separate mp3 player :P)
> > Jog dial will go in soon.
>
> Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
Why do peopl elike it so much? I've yet to use it.. its there, but
it doesn't feel comfortable.. maybe not yet anyway :)
> > High res fonts.. okay.. check me here. With font bucket installed,
> > and in high res assist most, I was able to pick high res fonts and they
> > displayed fine. (Just when using high res assist, dont' activate col-bg or
> > your unit locks up).
> I don't use font bucket with Shadow. My brief initial look into it did not
> show any clie hires fonts. Instead, I use FontHack123 and Lubak's clie
> hires fonts. Coupled with Shadow's variable font support, FontHack123 works
> great. I can't think of any further enhancement in this area that I'd want
> to see.
>
> > High resolution.. I need ot debate how I wish to use it yet.. but
> > it actually seemed like a lesser priority to Clie users..
> Definitely a low priority for me. I think the widgets, graphic buttons, and
> such are already small enough for me to tap. I wouldn't want to see them
> any smaller. While having them look sharper is nice, I'd rather see efforts
> go elsewhere. I'm not sure you want to make anything bigger. Kinda defeats
> the purpose of hires -- to show more and still be legible and good looking.
I'll have to look for lubeks sometime.
> I also want to see that col-bg thingie fixed and enhanced with
> customizable color. As you pointed out, the default light blue is
> barely visible on the clie.
>
> Thanks for your work and listening to our never-ending demands!
heh. I'm a sucker, thats all ;)
I picked up a Clie, too.
Handera folks-- fear not; the code going in for the Clie will work
just as well for the handera when I'm done with it. (VFS support is good
for everyone, too)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4330 |
From: fiatspider72 <fiatspider72@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:02pm
Subject: Re: VFS/cards
|
| |
> I've currently set it up so if you have an OS 4.x or greater
unit,
> you get a card picker in the top of the file selection screen,
where you
> can pick "Internal" or a card you've got in (any number of cards
can be
> handled). Once you pick the card, the files are listed as
appropriate.
I hope this does not mean that you are going to base VFS support on
the OS version. That would exclude all Visor users (3.1 & 3.5) that
are using one of the many expansion modules that offer acces via VFS.
I am quite sure that there is another way of dedecting if VFS
capabilities are present, as Wordsmith, Launcher III, Acrobat Reader,
ETAL..., are implemented in this fashion.
- Jeramy
|
| 4331 |
From: Kenneth S. Rhee <polymath@m...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:20pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
So, you finally got the Clie. Good for you.
check out Lubak's fonts at
http://www.domino.sk/lubak/
With symbol and San Serif, I got everything looking high resolution in Clie including the boxes.
Take care.
--
Kenneth S. Rhee, polymath@m... on 02/26/2002
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:57:39 -0500 (EST), Jeff Mitchell wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Russ & Ling Nero wrote:
>
>>Good! My memory stick should show up any day now.
>
> I just don't know what to fill mine up with (I already have a
>separate mp3 player :P)
>
>>>Jog dial will go in soon.
>>
>>Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
>
> Why do peopl elike it so much? I've yet to use it.. its there, but
>it doesn't feel comfortable.. maybe not yet anyway :)
>
>>>High res fonts.. okay.. check me here. With font bucket installed,
>>>and in high res assist most, I was able to pick high res fonts and
>>>they displayed fine. (Just when using high res assist, dont'
>>>activate col-bg or your unit locks up).
>
>>I don't use font bucket with Shadow. My brief initial look into it
>>did not show any clie hires fonts. Instead, I use FontHack123 and
>>Lubak's clie hires fonts. Coupled with Shadow's variable font
>>support, FontHack123 works great. I can't think of any further
>>enhancement in this area that I'd want to see.
>>
>>>High resolution.. I need ot debate how I wish to use it yet.. but
>>>it actually seemed like a lesser priority to Clie users..
>>Definitely a low priority for me. I think the widgets, graphic
>>buttons, and such are already small enough for me to tap. I
>>wouldn't want to see them any smaller. While having them look
>>sharper is nice, I'd rather see efforts go elsewhere. I'm not sure
>>you want to make anything bigger.
>>Kinda defeats the purpose of hires -- to show more and still be
>>legible and good looking.
>
> I'll have to look for lubeks sometime.
>
>>I also want to see that col-bg thingie fixed and enhanced with
>>customizable color. As you pointed out, the default light blue is
>>barely visible on the clie.
>>
>>Thanks for your work and listening to our never-ending demands!
>
> heh. I'm a sucker, thats all ;)
>
> I picked up a Clie, too.
>
> Handera folks-- fear not; the code going in for the Clie will work
>just as well for the handera when I'm done with it. (VFS support is
>good for everyone, too)
>
> jeff
>
>--
>"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own
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| 4332 |
From: Russ & Ling Nero <rnlnero@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:48pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
>
> > > Jog dial will go in soon.
> >
> > Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
>
> Why do peopl elike it so much? I've yet to use it.. its there, but
> it doesn't feel comfortable.. maybe not yet anyway :)
>
I use it a lot with email. With me being in Europe, all the forum actions
happen while I'm sleeping. In the morning, I hotsync my clie and download
all the messages. Then, using the jog dial and back button, I can read
email with one hand and eat breakfast with the other. I also use it looking
up phone numbers while on the phone. And navigating shopping list one
handed.
>
> I picked up a Clie, too.
>
> Handera folks-- fear not; the code going in for the Clie will work
> just as well for the handera when I'm done with it. (VFS support is good
> for everyone, too)
>
If you got a T615, I'm SO jealous.
Ling
|
| 4333 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:44pm
Subject: Clie jog dial
|
| |
Jeff...re: jog dial. You'll get to loving it the more you use it. I've had mine for a while and it is still almost like i forget to use it because i am so used to using the up/down button or the scrollbar in programs or tap on little arrows. What i find is that when you do that it is less functional when you really think about it. With the up/down, one hand is in the way of using the screen. With the other two you are on/over the screen, doing something to then move away to use it again. The jog dial allows you to hold it in such a way (assuming you hold it in your left hand) to open the screen up for you to use with your right hand. The scrolling can be quicker and easier, and you can be viewing the entire screen or ready to use it the entire time. Even with this, i still forget to go there since many programs build in the other ways to move and that is the visual sight reminder i tend to go towards. As for the back button, that is even less used, but when i remember, i keep telling myself that is so cool to have. Oh well, just my thoughts on something i must remember to use more often! Congrats on the hockey gold too!!!
Kevin
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|
| 4334 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:45pm
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow?
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 smasters@a... wrote:
> but being able to jump from
> ToDo to Shadow at any arbitrary time will require LinkeHack or the like..
>
> I would suggest either McPhling or SwitchHack for this. Either would allow
> you to bounce back and force with one swipe, or bring up a "recent apps"
> list to bounce back to with a swipe and a tap. Just my .02.
LinkerHack is not alauncher per se; linkerhack will let you
associate a todo item to a shadow item, so that you can jump from a
specific todo to a specific Shadow item (much like Shadows linking
ability, but in reverse)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4335 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: VFS/cards
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, fiatspider72 wrote:
> I hope this does not mean that you are going to base VFS support on
> the OS version. That would exclude all Visor users (3.1 & 3.5) that
> are using one of the many expansion modules that offer acces via VFS.
If they offer palm os standard expansion manager and VFS manager,
they ought to work, regardless of OS version (its not the OS thats
important.. its the OS services that are). The Clie 710 was OS 3.5.x I
think, with some (slightly weird) VFS support. Was there other pre OS4 VFS
devices? (Handera?)
> I am quite sure that there is another way of dedecting if VFS
> capabilities are present, as Wordsmith, Launcher III, Acrobat Reader,
> ETAL..., are implemented in this fashion.
Yep.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4336 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:56pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Russ & Ling Nero wrote:
> > > > Jog dial will go in soon.
> > >
> > > Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
> >
> > Why do peopl elike it so much? I've yet to use it.. its there, but
> > it doesn't feel comfortable.. maybe not yet anyway :)
>
> I use it a lot with email. With me being in Europe, all the forum actions
> happen while I'm sleeping. In the morning, I hotsync my clie and download
> all the messages. Then, using the jog dial and back button, I can read
> email with one hand and eat breakfast with the other. I also use it looking
> up phone numbers while on the phone. And navigating shopping list one
> handed.
Cool; I'm hoping to use it for one-handed-shadowing -- I keep
lists of terminologies, projects, etc, so when I'm listening to various
reports or status updates, I can scroll around and find our what the heck
they're talking about (you know, a project brought back to life after 3mo,
etc). One handed ops will be handy..
> If you got a T615, I'm SO jealous.
N760c.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4337 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Clie jog dial
|
| |
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> Jeff...re: jog dial. You'll get to loving it the more you use it.
> I've had mine for a while and it is still almost like i forget to use
> it because i am so used to using the up/down button or the scrollbar
> in programs or tap on little arrows. What i find is that when you do
Well said. The Clie is very nice, but it fails in the flipcover
arena (really flimsy), and in the buttons (I'm used to Handspring very
nice tactile feedback and solid consturction). The Clie buttons are almost
useless.. I doubt you can use them for gaming at all :/ However, the
jogdial ought to take care of me when I get used to it, as I mostly just
use the up and down buttons..
> often! Congrats on the hockey gold too!!!
Thanks. I don't know how the Germans can nail 35 medals (wow!),
but hockey is *our* game. Everyone I know had skates before they had
shoes, pretty much ;) (Basketball is our game too, but we stink at it. I
was happy as heck when we beat the Americans at baseball two years in a
row.. unheard of!)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
|
| 4338 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:02pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
Kenneth Rhee said:
So, you finally got the Clie. Good for you.
check out Lubak's fonts at
http://www.domino.sk/lubak/
With symbol and San Serif, I got everything looking high resolution in Clie
including the boxes.
Wow, I set up Shadow with the 16pt Sans Serif and Symbol and this looks
totally awesome. Thanks for the tip. I was having trouble getting the
boxes, but the website really makes it clear. Thanks again.
Scott
|
| 4339 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:08pm
Subject: Re: Clie jog dial
|
| |
yep, the buttons on the clie did disappoint me for gaming too. i basically gave up games that required buttons. on my prior prism, i LOVED zap2000, but now i never use it due to the buttons not allowing the fast and continuous movement.
time to begin reading the past 80+ emails from shadow as i was at a great seminar this weekend...for anyone that is thinking about it, called The Landmark Forum. the best money i've ever spent...truly life changing.
time to get ready for work! and yes, surprised me too when i saw the german count of 35 or so medals.
this is it, enjoy!
kevin
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| 4340 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:11pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
but don't forget jeff, you can upgrade the 760 from 8mg to 16mg with a guy on the east coast in just a few days. cost is about $140, but well worth it for the longevity of the machine and not having to always deal with moving things to and from the memory stick...but then again, later this year there will likely be sony's with the 16mg and faster processors!
kevin
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From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Russ & Ling Nero wrote:
> > > > Jog dial will go in soon.
> > >
> > > Jog dial is actually my #1 priority.
> >
> > Why do peopl elike it so much? I've yet to use it.. its there, but
> > it doesn't feel comfortable.. maybe not yet anyway :)
>
> I use it a lot with email. With me being in Europe, all the forum actions
> happen while I'm sleeping. In the morning, I hotsync my clie and download
> all the messages. Then, using the jog dial and back button, I can read
> email with one hand and eat breakfast with the other. I also use it looking
> up phone numbers while on the phone. And navigating shopping list one
> handed.
Cool; I'm hoping to use it for one-handed-shadowing -- I keep
lists of terminologies, projects, etc, so when I'm listening to various
reports or status updates, I can scroll around and find our what the heck
they're talking about (you know, a project brought back to life after 3mo,
etc). One handed ops will be handy..
> If you got a T615, I'm SO jealous.
N760c.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4341 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:13pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or smaller, but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10. thanks ahead.
kevin
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|
| 4342 |
From: aschell98 <aschell2000@h...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:24pm
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow?
|
| |
> > but being able to jump from
> > ToDo to Shadow at any arbitrary time will require LinkeHack or the
like..
> >
> > I would suggest either McPhling or SwitchHack for this. Either would
allow
> > you to bounce back and force with one swipe, or bring up a "recent apps"
> > list to bounce back to with a swipe and a tap. Just my .02.
>
> LinkerHack is not alauncher per se; linkerhack will let you
> associate a todo item to a shadow item, so that you can jump from a
> specific todo to a specific Shadow item (much like Shadows linking
> ability, but in reverse)
>
> jeff
Problem with linkerhack is that you can only use a specific link word once.
Say you have a todo item in datebook called shopping and you link to a
shadow shopping list. Next week you have some more shopping to do. You
cannot create another todo and use the word shopping to link to shadow. You
must use another word, or delete the first link.
This is why I stuck with megawiki which was a bit difficult to use at first.
Now megawiki is super easy and works great. If you tried it a while ago,
I'd suggest looking at it again. You need to go to the yahoo group for
megawiki and try the betas. He's added about 6 million things since the
last release to make it easier and to do more types of links.
Actually, even if you don't do much linking, megawiki has a very powerful
launching menu system which you can completely customize, which is worth
money on its own. And its all free!
|
| 4343 |
From: ::.jay.west <email@j...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:26pm
Subject: Re: Links back to Shadow? MegaWiki
|
| |
On the MegaWiki note:
Has anyone successfully been able to use MegaWiki to link from the new note
field origin in the todo db back to the correct list in Shadow? Seems to me
with the distinct [[[Shadow: listname]]] format you should be able isolate
that and uses it as a link back to a list in Shadow. Anyone tried that? I'm
trying it now...
j.
> From: "aschell98" <aschell2000@h...>
> Reply-To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:24:40 -0600
> To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Links back to Shadow?
>
>
>>> but being able to jump from
>>> ToDo to Shadow at any arbitrary time will require LinkeHack or the
> like..
>>>
>>> I would suggest either McPhling or SwitchHack for this. Either would
> allow
>>> you to bounce back and force with one swipe, or bring up a "recent apps"
>>> list to bounce back to with a swipe and a tap. Just my .02.
>>
>> LinkerHack is not alauncher per se; linkerhack will let you
>> associate a todo item to a shadow item, so that you can jump from a
>> specific todo to a specific Shadow item (much like Shadows linking
>> ability, but in reverse)
>>
>> jeff
> Problem with linkerhack is that you can only use a specific link word once.
> Say you have a todo item in datebook called shopping and you link to a
> shadow shopping list. Next week you have some more shopping to do. You
> cannot create another todo and use the word shopping to link to shadow. You
> must use another word, or delete the first link.
>
> This is why I stuck with megawiki which was a bit difficult to use at first.
> Now megawiki is super easy and works great. If you tried it a while ago,
> I'd suggest looking at it again. You need to go to the yahoo group for
> megawiki and try the betas. He's added about 6 million things since the
> last release to make it easier and to do more types of links.
>
> Actually, even if you don't do much linking, megawiki has a very powerful
> launching menu system which you can completely customize, which is worth
> money on its own. And its all free!
>
>
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| 4344 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 5:49pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
Have you tried the Lubak fonts? I'm not really sure of the sizes, but the
Sans Serif 16 is as small as I would go, and then there are 18, 20, and 22
on top of that. The 18 may be what you're looking for.
Scott
"Kevin
Giberson" To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
<kevin@g... cc:
on.net> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
02/26/2002
11:13 AM
Please
respond to
shadow-discus
s
anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or smaller,
but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10. thanks ahead.
kevin
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| 4345 |
From: Manfred Ell <manfredell@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:01pm
Subject: Re: wish
|
| |
You could be right there ;-) Just being lazy
--
Manfred Ell
On Tuesday Feb 26 at 02:33 PM, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
----------------------- Original Message -----------------------
> You can't get much shorter than two taps; you cannot have
> *everything* on the one screen, or it'd be a cluttered mess and you'd only
> have a few rows of useful list space :) So two taps is pretty good :)
--------------------- Original Message Ends --------------------
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| 4346 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:04pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
|
| |
maybe i am misinterpreting the numbers, but isn't 16 and 18 larger than what we currently have on Shadow? i want something slightly smaller than Shadow, but not so small i have to bring the Clie up to my face to read it. thanks for your info, and i will check them out.
kevin
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From: smasters@a...
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
Have you tried the Lubak fonts? I'm not really sure of the sizes, but the
Sans Serif 16 is as small as I would go, and then there are 18, 20, and 22
on top of that. The 18 may be what you're looking for.
Scott
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anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or smaller,
but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10. thanks ahead.
kevin
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From: Bert Latamore <bertlatamore@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: VFS/cards
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WordSmith has no problem use VFS on my HandEra 330
with OS 3.5 and AutoCard. It would be a big help if
Shadow could work in a similar fashion. I do a lot of
outlining in Shadow, which is a vastly better outliner
than Word on my laptop.
Bert
--- fiatspider72 <fiatspider72@y...> wrote:
> > I've currently set it up so if you have an OS 4.x
> or greater
> unit,
> > you get a card picker in the top of the file
> selection screen,
> where you
> > can pick "Internal" or a card you've got in (any
> number of cards
> can be
> > handled). Once you pick the card, the files are
> listed as
> appropriate.
>
> I hope this does not mean that you are going to base
> VFS support on
> the OS version. That would exclude all Visor users
> (3.1 & 3.5) that
> are using one of the many expansion modules that
> offer acces via VFS.
>
> I am quite sure that there is another way of
> dedecting if VFS
> capabilities are present, as Wordsmith, Launcher
> III, Acrobat Reader,
> ETAL..., are implemented in this fashion.
>
> - Jeramy
>
>
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| 4348 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:24pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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I think you may have to divide by 2. The 20 looks like a 10 pt font, but
the 16 seems even smaller than an 8. the 16 lets me get more on the screen
than the fontbucket cool 5 pt.
On the subject of fonts, anyone using CSPOTRUN? I can't seem to get it to
recognize the fonts I picked in fonthack, and it is much more difficult to
read on my T415 than it was on the M100. Do I need to change doc readers?
suggestions?
Thanks,
Scott
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maybe i am misinterpreting the numbers, but isn't 16 and 18 larger than
what we currently have on Shadow? i want something slightly smaller than
Shadow, but not so small i have to bring the Clie up to my face to read it.
thanks for your info, and i will check them out.
kevin
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To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
Have you tried the Lubak fonts? I'm not really sure of the sizes, but the
Sans Serif 16 is as small as I would go, and then there are 18, 20, and
22
on top of that. The 18 may be what you're looking for.
Scott
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anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or
smaller,
but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10. thanks ahead.
kevin
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From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:28pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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gotcha, thanks scott.
kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: smasters@a...
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
I think you may have to divide by 2. The 20 looks like a 10 pt font, but
the 16 seems even smaller than an 8. the 16 lets me get more on the screen
than the fontbucket cool 5 pt.
On the subject of fonts, anyone using CSPOTRUN? I can't seem to get it to
recognize the fonts I picked in fonthack, and it is much more difficult to
read on my T415 than it was on the M100. Do I need to change doc readers?
suggestions?
Thanks,
Scott
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From: Kenneth S. Rhee <polymath@m...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:29pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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I got great results with San Serif 18 and 18(B) for bold fonts.
Seeing is believing!
--
Kenneth S. Rhee, polymath@m... on 02/26/2002
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:49:07 -0600, smasters@a... wrote:
>
>Have you tried the Lubak fonts? I'm not really sure of the sizes,
>but the Sans Serif 16 is as small as I would go, and then there are
>18, 20, and 22 on top of that. The 18 may be what you're looking
>for.
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>
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>anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or
>smaller, but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10.
>thanks ahead.
>kevin
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| 4351 |
From: fiatspider72 <fiatspider72@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:31pm
Subject: Re: VFS/cards
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> If they offer palm os standard expansion manager and VFS manager,
> they ought to work, regardless of OS version (its not the OS thats
> important.. its the OS services that are). The Clie 710 was OS
3.5.x I
> think, with some (slightly weird) VFS support. Was there other pre
OS4 VFS
> devices? (Handera?)
You can count in Handsprng Visors via the:
FlashAdapter(Kopsis) combo OS 3.1 +
Memplug OS 3.5.x
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| 4352 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> but don't forget jeff, you can upgrade the 760 from 8mg to 16mg with a
> guy on the east coast in just a few days. cost is about $140, but
> well worth it for the longevity of the machine and not having to
> always deal with moving things to and from the memory stick...but then
> again, later this year there will likely be sony's with the 16mg and
> faster processors!
Thats the problem with being a developer; I',m not a large
company, so I can't buy every unit out there like a lot due. I get by on
as minimal as I can (hence the $12.99 pricetag :). So I held out on Clie's
as long as possible, to maximize bang for the previous buck, and to get
the best unit for the money on this buy. LAter this year, OS5 units will
come out.. I may buy one day 1, or maybe wait a few months, depending if
theres any Shadow issues (there shouldn't be). Ideally, I'll buy a second
generation OS5 unit... but if theres any issues with OS5, I'll buy one day
1.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4353 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:39pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Giberson wrote:
> maybe i am misinterpreting the numbers, but isn't 16 and 18 larger
> than what we currently have on Shadow? i want something slightly
> smaller than Shadow, but not so small i have to bring the Clie up to
> my face to read it. thanks for your info, and i will check them out.
I forget, but on 160x160 shadow uses the normal font, which is
what, 9 or 10 pixels. Sony's highres fonts are twice the normal width and
height so that highres assit works sensibly (more or less). So the highres
normal fonts are probably 18 pixels and work out to the same "size" as
normal.
Using a 10 pixel font on highres would be a tiny font (like in
Action Names high res, which just uses the system 9 point font on the
highres screen :P)
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4354 |
From: Jeff Mitchell <support@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:44pm
Subject: Re: Re: VFS/cards
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Bert Latamore wrote:
> WordSmith has no problem use VFS on my HandEra 330
> with OS 3.5 and AutoCard. It would be a big help if
> Shadow could work in a similar fashion. I do a lot of
> outlining in Shadow, which is a vastly better outliner
> than Word on my laptop.
I hope to have VFS out to alpha very soon (tonight, tomorrow, next
day.. one of them). If you want to join the shadow-test list and give it a
shot, I'd love to know if it works for you :) I will check to ensure I'm
not using any OS4.x dependancies for VFS.
jeff
--
"It's murder out there. You can't even travel around in your own micro
circuits without permission from 'Master Control Program'. I mean,
sending *ME* down here to play games.... Who does he calculate he is?"
-- Peter Jurasik as Crom, _Tron_
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| 4355 |
From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 6:46pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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jeff, understand completely!
kevin
Original Message -----
From: Jeff Mitchell
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
Thats the problem with being a developer; I',m not a large
company, so I can't buy every unit out there like a lot due. I get by on
as minimal as I can (hence the $12.99 pricetag :). So I held out on Clie's
as long as possible, to maximize bang for the previous buck, and to get
the best unit for the money on this buy. LAter this year, OS5 units will
come out.. I may buy one day 1, or maybe wait a few months, depending if
theres any Shadow issues (there shouldn't be). Ideally, I'll buy a second
generation OS5 unit... but if theres any issues with OS5, I'll buy one day
1.
jeff
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| 4356 |
From: mdc00000 <mdc00000@y...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:23pm
Subject: 'New From' Address / Memo?
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Jeff,
One thing I do regularly is create a list of people I need to call or
track calls received (RSVP's received, for example). For each name,
I need to create the item, manually type in the name, then create a
link to the address. Is there a way to create links with the name
placed into the description automatically, as in the 'New From'
behavior for ToDo's and Appointments? It would be nice to be able to
do this for all four built-in databases.
Also, is there a way to import / export outlines or sections of
outlines between Shadow and MemoPad?
Thanks... Mike Carter
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| 4357 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:31pm
Subject: Re: 'New From' Address / Memo?
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Jeff,
I have to admit, having a "cmd L" for phone lookup like the ToDo app would
be pretty cool. Do the phone lookup, copy the name to the item, and create
a link to the address record all in one step would be incredible. Just a
thought.
Scott
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Subject: [shadow-discuss] 'New From' Address / Memo?
02/26/2002
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Jeff,
One thing I do regularly is create a list of people I need to call or
track calls received (RSVP's received, for example). For each name,
I need to create the item, manually type in the name, then create a
link to the address. Is there a way to create links with the name
placed into the description automatically, as in the 'New From'
behavior for ToDo's and Appointments? It would be nice to be able to
do this for all four built-in databases.
Also, is there a way to import / export outlines or sections of
outlines between Shadow and MemoPad?
Thanks... Mike Carter
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From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:40pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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kenneth (or others), now my questions...
i download fontbucket and the various san fonts. i install. now the setup. what do i do to make these fonts the ones used in shadow (and other programs) on my clie 760 as opposed to what is already in use? do i need to disable the hi res assistant for any programs (shadow, font bucket, others)? anything on resets? any problems to know about that you are aware of with use? thanks.
kevin
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Cellular with voice mailbox: (831) 419-7551
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth S. Rhee
To: shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com ; shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
I got great results with San Serif 18 and 18(B) for bold fonts.
Seeing is believing!
--
Kenneth S. Rhee, polymath@m... on 02/26/2002
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:49:07 -0600, smasters@a... wrote:
>
>Have you tried the Lubak fonts? I'm not really sure of the sizes,
>but the Sans Serif 16 is as small as I would go, and then there are
>18, 20, and 22 on top of that. The 18 may be what you're looking
>for.
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>
>"Kevin
>
>Giberson" To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
>
><kevin@g... cc:
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>on.net> Subject: Re: [shadow-discuss] Clie users
>
>
>
>02/26/2002
>
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>
>Please
>
>respond to
>
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>
>s
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>anyone know of any 7 or 8 pt fonts for the Clie? seems many 6 or
>smaller, but i'd like just a bit bigger without the leap to 10.
>thanks ahead.
>kevin
>
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From: Steve Hill <mailing@s...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:45pm
Subject: Re: Re: Default color for entries
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Could we have colour being (optionally) inherited from parent items, so
whole sub-trees can be in the same colour without doing each item manually.
Then we can change top-level items to affect a whole sub-tree.
Thanks.
Steve Hill
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From: "hisimage8" <hisimage8@y...>
To: <shadow-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: [shadow-discuss] Re: Default color for entries
> > Getting there; I'm reworking things a lot (new release out,
> means
> > I can do more drastic changes for a bit).
> >
> > You want a default colour for items?
> >
> > jeff
>
> I'd just like to be able to set up a default color for each list so
> that whatever I enter won't be black as a default. I don't mind
> setting this for each list and I don't mind choosing colors manually
> per item if I want to have a colorful list. Most of the time, tho,
> I'd just like have all entires default to one color, my choice.
> Thanks so much for considering this. It's nice to be able to "pretty
> up" things when you have a color machine (Clie 615C).
>
> I'm also looking forward to being able to have the col bg on that you
> were mentioning earlier. I miss that -- didn't realize until now how
> helpful that was.
>
> Patricia
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From: Kevin Giberson <kevin@g...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:49pm
Subject: fonts
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P.S. Any problems or differences between using FontHack vs. FontBucket on the Sony Clie 760 that anyone is aware of?
Thanks,
Kevin
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| 4361 |
From: smasters@a...
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2002 7:50pm
Subject: Re: Clie users
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Don't use Fontbucket, use FontHack 123. Then also get the Lubak fonts. Both
of these are available at PalmGear. Then you go to your hack manager to
configure. Take a look at the link that Kenneth posted to the Lubak site.
It shows how to set it up correctly. You can choose which app to change, or
set all apps to use the same fonts. For Shadow, you have to assign symbol
fonts also. Again, I just followed the same setup as that on the website:
http://www.domino.sk/lubak/ . Hope this helps.
Scott
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